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UFO's of UAP'S in België en de rest van de wereld Ontdek de Fascinerende Wereld van UFO's en UAP's: Jouw Bron voor Onthullende Informatie!
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België: Het Kloppend Hart van UFO-onderzoek
In België is BUFON (Belgisch UFO-Netwerk) dé autoriteit op het gebied van UFO-onderzoek. Voor betrouwbare en objectieve informatie over deze intrigerende fenomenen, bezoek je zeker onze Facebook-pagina en deze blog. Maar dat is nog niet alles! Ontdek ook het Belgisch UFO-meldpunt en Caelestia, twee organisaties die diepgaand onderzoek verrichten, al zijn ze soms kritisch of sceptisch.
Nederland: Een Schat aan Informatie
Voor onze Nederlandse buren is er de schitterende website www.ufowijzer.nl, beheerd door Paul Harmans. Deze site biedt een schat aan informatie en artikelen die je niet wilt missen!
Internationaal: MUFON - De Wereldwijde Autoriteit
Neem ook een kijkje bij MUFON (Mutual UFO Network Inc.), een gerenommeerde Amerikaanse UFO-vereniging met afdelingen in de VS en wereldwijd. MUFON is toegewijd aan de wetenschappelijke en analytische studie van het UFO-fenomeen, en hun maandelijkse tijdschrift, The MUFON UFO-Journal, is een must-read voor elke UFO-enthousiasteling. Bezoek hun website op www.mufon.com voor meer informatie.
Samenwerking en Toekomstvisie
Sinds 1 februari 2020 is Pieter niet alleen ex-president van BUFON, maar ook de voormalige nationale directeur van MUFON in Vlaanderen en Nederland. Dit creëert een sterke samenwerking met de Franse MUFON Reseau MUFON/EUROP, wat ons in staat stelt om nog meer waardevolle inzichten te delen.
Let op: Nepprofielen en Nieuwe Groeperingen
Pas op voor een nieuwe groepering die zich ook BUFON noemt, maar geen enkele connectie heeft met onze gevestigde organisatie. Hoewel zij de naam geregistreerd hebben, kunnen ze het rijke verleden en de expertise van onze groep niet evenaren. We wensen hen veel succes, maar we blijven de autoriteit in UFO-onderzoek!
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25-07-2022
Ex-CIA Officer’s Alien-UFO Encounter: Says ‘There’s A Whole Other Reality That Surrounds Us’
Ex-CIA Officer’s Alien-UFO Encounter: Says ‘There’s A Whole Other Reality That Surrounds Us’
The link between CIA and UFO mystery is dated back to 1947. Since then, many CIA officials and the ex-US military personally propelled UFOlogy by giving shocking statements. Former CIA & US military officials such as R. James Woolsey, Derrel Sims, Lue Elizondo, David Fravor, etc. described how the existence of reality all around us that we are unable to perceive could be a major aspect of the UFO phenomenon.
Recently, two veteran CIA officers Jim Semivan & John Ramirez, who have expressed personal interest in UFO/UAP issues and cases, joined the George Knapp show to discuss the CIA’s role in the study of UFOs and their own experiences.
Jim Semivan spent 25 years with the CIA and then joined other former government insiders as part of Tom Delonge’s To the Stars Academy. He detailed how he was inducted into the CIA and learned spycraft, which takes years to master. The CIA works on a “need-to-know” principle, so when it came to UFOs, Semivan was not made specifically aware of research on this topic, though CIA analyst Kit Green was known for pursuing the paranormal.
Jim Semivan worked for 25 years as an Operations Officer for the CIA’s Directorate of Operations.
On Coast to Coast AM Semivan described his own alien-type encounters that occurred to him and his wife starting in 1990, in which beings showed up in their bedroom. The incident was authentic, and not a hypnagogic or dream state, he stipulated. The couple subsequently observed on-and-off poltergeist activity in their home, and more recently, he said he saw a hooded figure that resembled the Death Eater character from Harry Potter, who perhaps materialized to herald the death of a close friend. Semivan said he concurs with a remark made by Skinwalker Ranch researcher Colm Kelleher that the UFO phenomenon is a lot more than nuts & bolts and machines, as there are also psychic and biological elements that ratchet up the high strangeness. To the Stars’ investigation of “metamaterials” with odd isotopic ratios (possibly associated with UFOs) was ongoing, he added.
In the first half of the interview Semivan said:
“I think they mention that the phenomenon is a natural part of our universe, and we’re living in it but we don’t recognize it. The same way that insects and animals don’t recognize the human universe. A cat and a dog could be running through a library, but they don’t have the faintest idea what the books are all about and what libraries are all about. We might be walking through our existence and there’s a whole other reality that surrounds us that we just simply don’t have the ability to see or interact with.”
“It seems to be peeking inside our little consensus reality. As I explained to somebody once, it comes close, it teases us, it cajoles us, it lies to us, but you can never take it home to meet the parents. It won’t allow you to do that. There’s no formal introduction. Add on top that there’s no ontology, which is just a fancy word, it basically means there’s no structure to even discuss this. We don’t have a common lexicon. Somebody said we have dots but no connections. I don’t even think we have dots.”
John Ramirez, a 25-year CIA veteran who specialized in ballistic missile defense systems, was featured in the latter half of the interview. He recalled his long-standing interest in spycraft, and how he shifted from being a Navy officer to the CIA in 1984. He compared intel gathering to being a journalist for a news service, though his sources for reports were typically clandestine.
John Ramirez
Like Semivan, he also experienced what might be considered alien abduction-type experiences, including being placed on an examination table in a circular craft. Interestingly, a number of his counterparts in the CIA and NSA also had UFO experiences, he revealed. In his job related to missile defense, he became aware of times when Russian radar would detect unusual craft, and in one instance, he said they tried to lure a UAP into landing.
Ramirez noted that CIA historian Gerald Haines wrote about the agency’s study of UFOs from 1947 through the 1990s, for a division that was initially called the Office of Scientific Intelligence. What was particularly intriguing to Ramirez was that the division had life sciences and medical people on staff, indicating possible interest in alien bodies.
He also described how an Air Force pilot on the plane that flew near Kamchatka to monitor Russian tests observed a massive “milky white wall” of light flying toward him at 6,200 mph, though the Air Force assumed it was some kind of countermeasure by the Russians. Regarding the military sightings of ‘trans-medium’ UAP like the Tic Tacs, Ramirez said he does not believe that Russia or any other foreign country has the capabilities to produce this kind of antigravity technology.
Lue made these points in several interviews, but in this one, he was asked to elaborate on his comments about how our senses are reductive and limit our reality, and how this might be relevant to the phenomenon. He replied:
“This is something we’ve been dealing with for a long time. Imagine the first person to get on a boat and sail over the horizon. There’s stories of sea monsters and Krakens that will devour you and destroy your boat. Yet, we did it anyways. We did sail, and we explored the world. It turns out, 500 years later, there really are sea monsters. We call them the Great Squid of the Pacific, and great white sharks and whales.
Now they’re just part of nature and have a scientific name, but those sea monsters still exist. They’re there, we just learned to understand them. Maybe this is the same thing. Maybe this is just another expedition over the horizon where we’re going to realize what we thought were monsters are really just neighbors.”
Interestingly, Garry Nolan, Lue Elizondo, Tom DeLonge, and Jacques Vallee say very similar things when it comes to the reality of the phenomenon.
After the Pentagon‘s great UFO declassification and congressional hearings, NASA decided to hunt down the aliens. The agency possesses advanced technology on Planet Earth, exploring the possibility of transforming satellites into alien seekers to probe unexplained sightings without launching new equipment. The Galileo Project is designing a space mission to rendezvous with the next anomalous (Oumuamua-like) interstellar object that zooms into our solar system.
Is that the first time NASA became interested in alien civilizations? NASA whistleblowers, who claimed to have closely worked in some of the top missions, do not think so. Former NASA employee, Donna Hare reportedly saw a photo of a distinct UFO. Her colleague explained that it was his job to airbrush such evidence of UFOs out of photographs before they were released to the public.
On May 9, 2001, over twenty military, intelligence, government, corporate and scientific witnesses came forward at the National Press Club in Washington, DC to establish the reality of UFOs or extraterrestrial vehicles, extraterrestrial life forms, and the resulting advanced energy and propulsion technologies. As part of the Disclosure Project, Donna Hare, a photographic scientist testified to have worked for NASA contactor Philco Ford in the early 1970s. She had a high-security clearance to walk in NASA’s photo lab and other departments.
During the Disclosure Project press conference, Hare revealed that NASA covered up and eliminated space anomalies such as UFOs from the satellite photos. Hare has got several awards in the space programs. She dedicated most of her time as a technical illustrator to space programs. She created lunar maps and landing slides and had been working for 15 years as a sub-contractor for NASA.
Below is the transcript of Hare’s part in the Disclosure Program (Full Video link here):
“Good morning everyone! My name is Donna Hare, and I worked at Philco Ford aerospace from 1967 to 1981. During that time, I was a design illustrator draftsman. I did the launch slides, landing slides, and also projected plotting boards lunar maps for NASA. We were a contractor but most of the time, I worked in Building 8. I had the opportunity to do extra work during downtime which was between missions, and I walked into a photo lab which was the NASA lab across the hallway. I had a secret clearance which is not that high but I was able to go into restricted areas.
At the time, I was talking to one of the techs in there and he drew my attention to a NASA photograph. It had a “Dot” on it, and I asked what it was. Well, he drew my attention to it and I said is that a dot on the emulsion? He was smiling and he had his hands crossed… This was an aerial photograph of the Earth, I’m assuming the Earth because it had pine trees on it and the shadows of the craft or whatever it was were at the same angle as the trees and by its very nature, a UFO. And I wanted to clarify that to the gentleman that was talking to me… So, I did not know what this was but I realized at this point that it’s very secret.
I asked him what he was gonna do with this piece of information. He said they always airbrush these out before they sell them to the public, so they’re pissed pesky little creatures appearing on this photograph they wanted to get rid of. After that, I decided I would ask questions to other people that worked there (away from the site and not on site).
A guard told me that he was asked to burn some photographs and not to look at them, and there was another guard guarding him who was in green fatigues watching him burn the photographs and he said he was too tempted he looked at one.
I knew someone in quarantine with the Apollo astronauts he told me that the Apollo astronauts saw crap on the moon when we landed. He said that the astronauts are told to keep this quiet.”
Hare was told by one of the sources that during one of the moon landings, three UFOs had landed. Subsequently, there was a codeword “Santa Claus” for these crafts. She said she would be willing to testify before Congress. (Source)
In 2000, Gary McKinnon, a British Hacker who got so fed up with the government hiding information related to UFOs and free energy that he decided to hack the most secured servers of NASA and the Pentagon. McKinnon said that he had seen real photographs of UFOs in computer files at the Johnson Space Center Building. He even took a screenshot of one of the cigar-shaped UFOs in-between space and the earth’s atmosphere. Unfortunately, it was removed from his computer after being seized.
Below is the recreation of the famous ‘NOT MAN MADE’ craft that was seen by McKinnon when he hacked & accessed NASA computers. (Source)
Gary claims he discovered a satellite picture of a cigar-shaped alien craft with domes on the sides, like this artist’s impression credit: PROJECT8BALL
Lonnie Zamora UFO Incident: A Reliable Police Officer, Blue Flames, A Landed Craft & Small Beings
Lonnie Zamora UFO Incident: A Reliable Police Officer, Blue Flames, A Landed Craft & Small Beings
An in-depth look at one of the most outstanding and unsolved UFO cases in history. Lonnie Zamora was a reliable witness whose story was backed up by many other eyewitnesses.
It was April 24, 1964, a Friday, and close to 5:50 p.m. in Socorro, New Mexico. Police Officer Lonnie Zamora, who had just observed a speeding car heading south, was in hot pursuit and heading toward the rodeo grounds. Less than a minute into the chase he heard what he thought was an explosion. He immediately thought of a nearby dynamite shack.
When he observed a brilliant blue "cone of flame" off to the south-south-west in the direction of the shack, he veered off to the right onto a gravel road. Even over the crunching-tire sound, Zamora could hear a continuous roar. The slowly descending flame fell out of his line of sight, eclipsed by a hill. He turned off the road and attempted twice to drive over the hill, succeeding on the third attempt. Meanwhile, the roaring sound diminished and ceased. By the time he got to the top of the hill, all was silent, and the flame was no longer visible.
Zamora stopped his car and looked around for a few moments until his eye caught a metallic object in a ravine to the southwest, about 150 yards away. His initial impression was that it was a white car lying either on its side or upside down. Then he "saw two figures in what resembled white coveralls, pretty close to the object on its northwest side, as if inspecting it. They were standing between it and a good-size greasewood (creosote) bush. One of the figures - the one in front nearest me seemed to turn as if it heard or saw my car coming. It must have seen me, cause when I turned and it looked straight at my car, it seemed startled - almost seemed to jump somewhat."
The figures were small, "maybe the size of boys," and from a distance they looked "normal in shape." The object was oval-shaped and positioned so that its long axis was horizontal. As he would write in his official report, "At this time I started moving my car towards them quickly, with idea to help. Had stopped about only a couple of seconds." As he resumed his drive toward the object, the car descended into a dip, and the sight was lost to view momentarily. He radioed headquarters to report that he was investigating a "possible 10-40" - police code for accident. Yet he was no longer sure that was what he was seeing. Maybe this was an experimental aircraft from nearby White Sands Proving Grounds.
The Zamora UFO incident is one of the most interesting on record
He was still on the radio when he stopped for a second time and stepped outside. The microphone slipped from his hand. As he picked it up, he heard two or three loud thumps, "like someone hammering or shutting a door or doors, heard possibly a second or less apart." He quickly placed the microphone back into its slot, then got out again. At that moment a roar filled his ears. In the terse words of the police report he soon would file:
"Started low frequency quickly, then rose in frequency (higher tone) and in loudness - from loud to very loud. At same time as roar saw flame. Flame was under the object. Object was starting to go straight up - slowly up... straight up. Flame was light blue and at bottom was sort of orange color. From this angle, saw what might be the side of object (not end, as first noted). Difficult to describe flame. Thought, from roar, it might blow up. Flame might have come from underside of object, at middle, possibly a four-feet area - very rough guess... No smoke, except dust in immediate area.
Object was smooth - no windows or doors. As roar started it was still on or near ground. Noted red lettering of some type... Insignia about 2 1/2 by 2 feet wide, guess. Was in middle of object... Object still like aluminum - white."
When this was happening, Zamora was within 50 feet of the object. As soon as he saw the flame, "I immediately thought the thing might explode," he told ufologist Ray Stanford, "so I hit the dirt in a prone position there on the slope for a moment until I heard the roar continue and knew there was no explosion." During that moment he felt some faint heat from the flame. He rose and dashed to the car, watching the object all the while. Because his attention was elsewhere, he collided with the rear of the car and was knocked down. His glasses and sunshades went flying. Staggering to his feet, he kept running, determined to get himself positioned behind the car. To quote from his report:
"Kept running to north, with car between me and object. Glanced back couple of times. Noted object to rise to about level of car, about 20 to 25 feet guess - took, I guess, about six seconds when object started rise and I glanced back. I guess I ran about halfway to where I ducked down, just over the edge of hill. I guess I had run about 25 feet when I glanced back and saw the object about level with the car and it appeared directly over the place where it rose from." I was still running and I jumped just over the hill - I stopped because I did not hear the roar. I was scared of the roar, and I had planned to continue running down the hill. I turned around toward the object and at the same time put my head toward ground, covering my face with arms. Being that there was no roar, I looked up, and I saw the object going away from me, in a southwest direction. When the roar stopped, heard a sharp tone whine from high tone to low tone. At the end of roar was this whine and the whine lasted maybe a second. Then there was complete silence about the object. That's when I lifted up my head and saw object going away from me. It did not come any closer to me. It appeared to go in a straight line and at same height - possibly 10 to 15 feet from the ground, and it cleared the dynamite shack by about 3 feet. Shack about 8 feet high. Object was traveling very fast. It seemed to rise up, and take off immediately across country. I ran back to my car and as I ran back I kept an eye on the object. I picked up my glasses (I left the sunglasses on the ground), got into the car, and radioed to Nep Lopez, radio operator, to "look out of the window, to see if you can see an object." He asked, "What is it?" I answered, "It looks like a balloon." I don't know if he saw it. If Nep looked out of his window, which faces north, he couldn't have seen it. I did not tell him at the moment which window to look out of.
As I was calling Nep, I could still see the object. The object seemed to lift up slowly, and to "get small" in the distance very fast. It seemed to just clear Box Canyon or Six Mile Canyon mountain. It disappeared as it went over the mountains. It had no flame whatsoever as it was travelling over the ground, and made no smoke or noise.
Noted no odors. Noted no sounds other than described. Gave directions to Nep Lopez at radio and to Sgt M.S. Chavez to get there. Went down to where object was (had been), and I noted the brush was burning in several places. At that time, I heard Sgt. Chavez calling me on radio for my location, and I returned to my car, told him he was looking at me. Then Sgt. Chavez came up and asked me what the trouble was, because I was sweating and he told me I was white, very pale. I asked the Sergeant to see what I saw, and that was the burning bush, then Sgt. Chavez and I went to the spot, and Sgt. Chavez pointed out the tracks."
The entire incident - from the sighting of the flame to the disappearance of the object - took place in less than two minutes. When Chavez arrived, he was struck by Zamora's distraught expression. "You look like you've seen the devil," Chavez said. "Maybe I have," Zamora replied. He no longer was thinking in terms of secret military devices.
The "tracks" were four asymmetrically placed, trapezoidal imprints. Stanford, who saw them, described them thus:
"They apparently made by wedge-shaped units being forced, by great weight, down into the rather well-packed soil of the ravine. The dimensions of each wedge involved must have been: a horizontal length of 12 to 16 inches, a width, horizontally, of 6 to 8 inches; and a vertical wedge - depth of possibly 4 to 6 inches, although the total depth is difficult to determine from the soil depressions."
The local newspaper observed, "They did not appear to have been made by an object striking the earth with great force, but by an object of considerable weight settling to earth at slow speed and not moving after touching the ground." The imprints also felt moist to the touch, unlike the surrounding soil.
To Chavez, though he had known Zamora for years and considered him honest and reliable, the story seemed mindboggling and impossible. Chavez examined a greasewood bush situated approximately in the center of the quadrangle. Though a smoke, or steamlike substance was rising from it, it felt cool to the touch. Rocks and clumps of grass looked as if they had been seared. There was no evidence of flame or coals; yet, as an officer who saw the bush a few minutes later would remark, "The flame from that damn thing just sliced that greasewood bush in half, just burned it off clean like a blade of fire had cut through it." Chavez surreptitiously looked into Zamora's car to see if it contained any implements with which the effects could have been manufactured, but he found nothing.
Zamora, who had sketched the insignia just prior to Chavez's arrival on the scene, showed it to his fellow officer. It was peculiar: an arrow shape pointing upward from a straight-line base; a half-circle surrounded the arrow and came down nearly all the way to the base. Neither man had ever seen anything like it. Within minutes State Police Senior Patrolman Ted V. Jordan arrived, as did Undersheriff James Luckie and cattle inspector Robert White, who had overheard the radio traffic. Jordan took photographs of the site with his Argus C-3 camera. The group stayed at the site until just before 7 p.m., when Chavez and Zamora left to go to the state police office. Having restored their shattered nerves, the two were back to speculating that the object had come from White Sands, the size of its pilots notwithstanding, and they were looking for guidance on what to do next. They arrived there at 7:05.
Other Witnesses
Just before 6 p.m. on April 24, a car pulled into the Whiting Brother's service station in Socorro. Inside were five members of a family: a man, a woman, and three boys, the oldest of them appearing to be 11 or 12 years old. The man spoke to Opal Grinder, manager of the establishment. "Your aircraft sure fly low around here," he said. An "airplane," he went on, "almost took the roof off our car" just minutes before. They had been on the south side of town, driving north on Highway 85, north of the airport, and within sight of a junkyard when they saw the aircraft. The man told Grinder that the craft apparently was in trouble because at the same time he had seen a police car pull off the main road and travel up a hill along the flight path. When Grinder suggested he had seen a helicopter, the man replied that if that was so, it was certainly a funny-looking helicopter. It was only two days later, when Grinder heard of Zamora's encounter, that he understood that his customer had independently witnessed Zamora's UFO. The man had paid in cash, so there was no credit-card receipt with which to trace him. Grinder's son Jimmy thought he recalled that the car had a Colorado license plate. Though Zamora's experience would be widely publicized, these witnesses have never stepped forward to identify themselves.
In his book on the case, Socorro Saucer, Ray Stanford mentions a phone call an Albuquerque television station took just before 5:30 p.m. The caller claimed to have just seen an egg, or oval-shaped UFO traveling southward at a speed compared to that of an ordinary propeller-driven aircraft. Stanford speculates that this was the UFO, also reported as relatively slow-moving, that Zamora would see less than half an hour later (Socorro is 70 miles straight south of Albuquerque).
Stanford also mentions a meeting with two women who lived on the south side of Socorro and who claimed to have heard the roaring sound associated with the object, though they did not see the object itself. The women said that many other residents of the area had also heard the sounds, and someone in the sheriff's department told Stanford the same thing. He did not interview any of these other witnesses, however.
There were still more witnesses, according to information that would surface years later when the individuals involved could no longer be traced. In a 1995 interview, Ted Jordan recalled a sighting related to him by Robert Dusenberry, who worked for the Socorro Electric Corporation. Dusenberry said he and two other men had been traveling in a car near the landing site when they witnessed what apparently was the UFOs departure. Dusenberry kept his experience to himself and later related it to Jordan, a friend.
Sometime between 8 and 8:30 p.m. a master sergeant driving south from Stallion Range Center, the up-range (northern) station of the White Sands Missile Range, spotted a light-blue glow tipped with orange at the bottom. It was in the mountains some miles to his west from his location near Las Cruces. When the glow intensified, his car engine died, and the electrical system failed. The sergeant, a master mechanic who was in charge of the center's vehicle-repair shop, was startled; he had made sure the car was in perfect operating condition before he left. He stepped out of the car and watched the glow for a short time before it faded out. As it did so, the car started again. When he got to the main station, he had the car carefully checked. There was nothing wrong with it.
The witness was some miles southeast of Socorro. The glow, which arguably could have been from the bluish "cone of flame" Zamora first saw (as, apparently, did others), was situated in the mountains to the southwest of Socorro - the direction it was going when Zamora lost sight of it. It is possible, in other words, that the sergeant observed the same UFO.
Investigations
When Zamora and Chavez arrived at the state police station early that evening, Zamora spoke briefly with FBI agent Arthur Byrnes, Jr., who had heard about the incident over the police radio. Just after 7 o'clock Byrnes contacted White Sands, and the officer who took the call immediately notified Army Captain Richard T. Holder, commander of the up-range station. Holder, 28, was the senior military officer in the immediate area.
Within a few minutes, Holder and Byrnes were talking directly, and Holder headed for police headquarters, where he and Byrnes interviewed Zamora. Soon they and several Socorro police officers were at the site. After studying the area, the group returned to the station. At that point dispatcher Lopez mentioned that approximately three reports had come over the phone from locals who said they had seen a blue flame of light in the area. These sightings occurred, he said, around the time of Zamora's encounter. Unfortunately, he did not enter the reports in the dispatcher's log. Holder subsequently told the Socorro newspaper, "After being appraised of the situation, I attempted to determine whether White Sands Missile Range or Holloman Air Force Base had anything that might produce the conditions described. Neither had an object that would compare to the object described. There was no known firing mission in progress at the time of the occurrence that would produce the conditions reported."
That evening Holder called in military policemen from the Stallion station. Working by flashlight, they roped off the site, took measurements, and collected samples. Holder would recall, "I saw rocks that were normal on one side and charred on the other. There were bushes alive on one side, but when you'd touch them, the other side would flake to ash. When an object blasts off by rocket or jet propulsion, there's usually damage or debris in the area. But there was no indication of that type of disturbance." Holder also noticed that the geometric pattern of the "footprints" was "very similar to the geometric pattern of the vehicular prints. They were some distance from the object, about the size of a footprint that a bigfooted teenager would make.
The next morning Holder was surprised to get a call from a colonel who said he was phoning from the war room of the Joint Chiefs of Staff at the Pentagon. He wanted to know if Holder had prepared a report on the incident. When he said he had, he was ordered to read it into the scrambler. He had just begun to do so when the connection was broken. Still wondering what he, a young captain at a remote post, was doing talking with someone in such a high position in the national-security establishment, Holder phoned the war room, spoke again with the colonel, and then got reconnected onto the scrambler, Years later he was still wondering, "Why in the world were they so interested?"
The publicity, which would be massive once the story hit the press wires, started hours later, and over the next couple of days, many hundreds of curiosity-seekers had descended on the site, wiping out much of the surviving physical evidence. On Sunday, the twenty-sixth, Jim and Coral Lorenzen, directors of the Tucson-based Aerial Phenomena Research Organization (APRO), were in Socorro. So were T/Sgt. David Moody of Project Blue Book and Kirtland AFB UFO-reporting officer Major William Conner. Moody and Conner checked the area for radioactivity and detected nothing unusual. They also failed to uncover any radar confirmation of the object's passing. This was not significant. Because it was a Friday evening, the radars at Stallion - used for testing purposes, not for air defense - were off. Even had they been on, it would have been extremely difficult to track an object moving against a mountain background.
On Tuesday, April 28, Stanford arrived to investigate the case for the National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena (NICAP). Early that afternoon Blue Book scientific consultant and Northwestern University astronomer J.Allen Hynek boarded a plane for New Mexico two hours after getting a call from the project's commanding officer, Captain Hector Quintanilla.
Hynek, who had been associated with Air Force UFO projects since the late 1940s, was growing increasingly disenchanted with what he saw as the inept handling of the phenomenon. Ironically, Hynek, along with one of his graduate students, had been at Blue Book headquarters at Wright-Patterson AFB, Dayton, Ohio, visiting Quintanilla at the very moment - unknown, of course, to any of them - Zamora's encounter was taking place. The graduate student, Jacques Vallee, had been actively encouraging the older man to take a fresh look at the UFO evidence and to distance himself from the Air Force's negative party line. By now the traditionally cautious Hynek was receptive not only to Vallee's entreaties but to the Socorro event, which appeared to be an unusually promising and evidential UFO case.
In a private memorandum written on May 20, Hynek expressed his disdain for the situation at Blue Book. "The Air Force is in a spot over Socorro," he noted. Quintanilla was trying to evade congressional pressure by offering a "vague statement identifying the object as an unspecified U.S. experimental aircraft," but in Hynek's estimation that "won't go down... The AF doesn't know what science is."
Arriving at the Albuquerque airport at mid-afternoon, Hynek was met by Major Conner. On the drive to Socorro, the Air Force vehicle got a flat tyre. It had no jack, so Hynek was forced to hitchhike the rest of the way. The symbolism of this seems a little too perfect. Hynek was happy to get there "before the AF people." According to the memo:
"Found Zamora & Chavez were very anti-AF. I got rid of the AF people & got the story from them that night at the jail. (A slow process - they were not eager to talk at first.) The next morning we went & reenacted it at the spot. A NICAP person (Ray Stanford) was already there & lent me some bottles for taking specimens. I had brought nothing. Z. is an unimaginative cop of an old Socorro family, incapable of hoax, and pretty sore at being regarded as a romancer. It took at least 1/2 an hour to thaw him out...
The marks left on the ground: 4 rectangular scrapings as if a rectangular object had scraped along, digging into the ground - deeper at the end. The gouging was done away from the center in every case. The arrangement was not regular, but the diagonals were perfectly at right angles. When I was there this had been all tromped up in spite of a wall of stones that a Captain Holder, an Army "downrange officer," had carefully built around them.
Still, Hynek was impressed. "I think this case may be the 'Rosetta Stone'," he concluded. "There's never been a strong case with so unimpeachable a witness."
Investigations and Theories
On June 8 the Air Force issued an official two-page report on the case. The document, riddled with error, starts with the false claim that at the initiation of the sighting Zamora was going "north on US 85" when in fact he was going south on Park Street west of the highway. The report said the Blue Book investigation had determined the following:
No other witnesses to the object reported by Mr Zamora could be located.
There were no unidentified helicopters or aircraft in the area
Observers at radar installations had observed no unusual or unidentified blips.
There was no unusual meteorological activity; no thunderstorms. The weather was windy but clear.
There was no evidence of markings of any sort in the area other than the shallow depressions at the location where Mr Zamora reported sighting the object.
Laboratory analysis of soil samples disclosed no foreign material or radiation above normal for the surrounding area.
Laboratory analysis of the burned brush showed no chemicals that would indicate a type of propellant.
There was no evidence presented that the object was extraterrestrial in origin or represented a threat to the security of the United States.
The Air Force is continuing its investigation and the case is still open.
Where the alleged absence of other witnesses was concerned, Blue Book spoke with no real authority. Hynek would write that he had tried his best to persuade project personnel to conduct a search for possible witnesses, including the one with whom Opal Grinder claimed to have spoken, but "they evinced no interest whatsoever."
Hynek returned to Socorro on August 15 and again on March 12-13, 1965, but learned nothing new or significant. Most people, including Sergeant Chavez, now thought the object was a secret experimental device, a view that over the years would hold favor among those who could not accept the idea that Zamora had encountered an extraterrestrial spacecraft. (Zamora, reluctant to talk further, expressed no opinion.) Hynek found only one Socorro resident who considered Zamora, otherwise regarded as a man of upstanding character, a hoaxer. Felix Phillips, who lived about a thousand feet south of the landing site, reported that neither he nor his wife had heard the booming sounds Zamora described; therefore they doubted Zamora's veracity. Hynek was skeptical, however. As he wrote in an official memo on the trip:
"Phillips was directly downwind from the gully, there was a very strong southwest wind blowing, and the gully is on the opposite side of the hill from where Phillips was listening. This, of course, can make a tremendous difference in ability to hear. Further, there are trucks passing along the highway quite close to Phillip's house, and he undoubtedly is used to hearing backfires and truck roars of one sort or another."
No evidence of a hoax would ever emerge. Even Blue Book chief Quintanilla, writing in the classified CIA journal Studies in Intelligence, offered this endorsement of the case:
"There is no doubt that Lonnie Zamora saw an object which left quite an impression on him. There is no question about Zamora's reliability. He is a serious police officer, a pillar of his church, and a man well versed in recognizing airborne vehicles in his area. He is puzzled by what he saw and frankly, so are we. This is the best-documented case on record, and still, we have been unable, in spite of thorough investigation, to find the vehicle or other stimulus that scared Zamora to the point of panic."
Quintanilla was not endorsing the extraterrestrial interpretation, but he did not doubt that the officer had seen some sort of unusual aircraft. (Years later, however, in a memoir of his Blue Book years, Quintanilla, lamenting his inability to solve the case and the use "UFO buffs and hobby clubs" had made of the fact, intimated - without bringing any new or relevant information in the discussion - that Zamora had faked the sighting.)
The absence of evidence for a hoax did not discourage two UFO debunkers from proposing separate versions of a hoax hypothesis. In a letter to Hynek, Harvard University astronomer Donald H. Menzel outlined an elaborate scenario in which local high school students, using a balloon and various chemicals, "planned the whole business to 'get' Zamora." Hynek found no enthusiasm for this hypothesis among Socorro citizens to whom he showed the letter. In June 1970, debating ufologist Raymond E. Fowler on a Boston television show, Menzel opined that Zamora had seen a "dust devil."
Drawing on innuendo rather than on specific evidence, Philip J. Klass speculated that Zamora had conspired with Mayor Holm Bursum, Jr. (who owned the property on which the UFO landing reportedly occurred), to manufacture a UFO incident to attract tourists to the town. No such commercial exploitation ever took place, and there is no reason to take Klass's theory seriously. In an earlier interpretation, Klass had Zamora seeing an extraordinary plasma phenomenon associated with a nearby high-voltage transmission line.
Artist’s Impression of the Zamora incident
Other Incidents
The Socorro event was not an isolated occurrence but only the most-publicized of a wave that began in the Southwest and soon spread throughout the country. At 9 p.m. on April 22, a car driving 10 or 15 miles east of Lordsburg, New Mexico, was paced by a large round light, as brilliant as a welder's torch and consisting of numerous lenslike lights. As it passed about 10 feet over the top of the car, it illuminated the interior of the vehicle and emitted a whirring, whining sound. The UFO then rose but maintained its course on the highway. Finally, it veered toward the north and was lost to sight. The sighting lasted no more than two or three minutes.
On the morning of the twenty-fifth, eighty miles southeast of Socorro, J.D. Hatch of Roswell was driving on U.S. 70 between Mescalero and Tularosa when a bright oval object descended from the sky and seemed to land on the other side of Round Mountain, east of Tularosa. That evening two motorists driving between Abiquiu and Espanola on U.S. 84, in north-central New Mexico (Socorro is in the west-central part of the state) reported that a strange object, definitely not a plane, flew straight toward their car before shooting away. All they could see of it was a blue-flamed jet stream.
None of these reports received the attention or extensive investigation the Socorro report received. This neglect is particularly unfortunate in the case of Orlando Gallegos, a 35-year-old Santa Fe resident who had an odd encounter while he and his family were visiting his father's ranch just north of La Madera, a remote community a few miles north of the just-mentioned U.S. 84 sighting location and 170 miles north of Socorro. At 1 a.m. on the twenty-sixth, Gallegos stepped outside to chase away some horses that had run into the yard. This accomplished, he happened to look out toward the Vallecitos creek bank some 300 yards away. There, resting on a spot between a dumping area and a dirt road, he saw a peculiar structure.
It looked like a butane tank "as long as a telephone pole." It was metallic, windowless, about 14 feet in diameter, and shooting blue flames out of holes in the sides along the bottom. Over the next minute, the flame suddenly died out. At no time did the object make any sound. When he went inside to report it, he was laughed at. Finally, he went to bed, and when he checked in the morning, the object was gone.
Before leaving La Madera that afternoon, Gallegos told City Officer Nick Naranjo about the incident and soon was telling his story to State Police Officers Marvin Romero and David Kingsbury. They, in turn, notified State Police Captain Martin E. Vigil, who dispatched another officer, Albert Vega, to the site. At 7:30 p.m. Vigil and Kingsbury joined him there. Vigil would recall:
"At that time, the ground was still smouldering and badly scorched. Officer Vega advised that he had observed four depressions on the ground, one of which was quite clear, the others having been obliterated due to windy weather conditions. Officer Vega stated that this depression was approximately eight by twelve inches in size, about three or four inches deep, and sort of "V" shaped at the bottom.
There were also numerous oval-shaped, or "cat-paw like", markings around the scorched area. These were approximately three and one-half inches in diameter."
Vigil saw to it that Kirtland AFB, Albuquerque, and the FBI heard about the incident. So did Major William Conner, who had also been involved in the Air Force investigation at Socorro. On the twenty-seventh Conner went to the site with Gallegos. The same day Santa Fe new Mexican reporter Doyle Akers examined the spot, which he described as follows:
"At the scene itself, the charred area was a peculiar shape, like two overlapping circles. It was about 20 feet across. Large rocks within the area showed evidence of extreme heat, while others within a few feet weren't damaged at all. A soft drink bottle had melted while another five feet away was intact. An attempt to set fire to chamisa brush nearby failed."
Vega recalled that late the previous evening he had sent a group of drunken young people home from a dance in nearby Ojo Caliente. They would have passed by the La Madera site, but when Vega asked them, they said they had seen nothing out of the ordinary. When he himself first came to the spot, it was still smoking. "That area just wouldn't start burning from a match or a cigarette," Vega said. "You'd have to have some kind of gasoline or chemical to make it burn like that. But I don't think anybody would be out starting a fire a 1 o'clock in the morning."
Blue Book explained the incident as having been occasioned by a fire set in the dumping ground. Its investigation was cursory, and Hynek, who was interested in the case, was refused authorization to go to La Madera. In 1970, a United Press International dispatch quoted Emilio Naranjo, who in April 1964 had been Rio Arriba County sheriff, as asserting, "Our investigation showed that three or four young boys had been washing a car at the river and started a fire to burn the rags they had used. That was the flying saucer Gallegos saw." Nothing in Gallegos's testimony or in the reports of those who saw the physical evidence the next day provides much support for this claim.
It is tempting to link the La Madera blue-flame-spewing object with the UFO seen not far away and just two hours earlier. Unfortunately, the absence of a comprehensive investigation leaves this potentially significant case in limbo.
Nick Pope's Missing Tollbooth experience part two -
Nick Pope's Missing Tollbooth experience part two -Please Share.
I'm sick of Nick Poop and I recently posted the full inside story on his own 'missing time' encounter in 1991 which he now of course denies. This is the follow up to that first part which I have been asked to post so here you are:
Pretty much everyone in the UFO community will know of Nick Pope and his claims that from 1991-1994 he ran the UK governments ‘UFO PROJECT’, was the UK government’s ‘UFO expert’ and investigated UFOs, crop circles and alien abductions for the UK Ministry of Defence. These are his exact words from his own website:
“Nick Pope ran the British Government’s UFO project. From 1991 to 1994 he researched and investigated UFOs, alien abductions, crop circles and other strange phenomena, leading the media to call him the real Fox Mulder. Nick Pope ran the British Government’s UFO project. From 1991 to 1994 he researched and investigated UFOs, alien abductions, crop circles and other strange phenomena, leading the media to call him the real Fox Mulder. “
Let’s make things quite clear before we move on. According to the Ministry of Defence, Nick Pope’s previous employers, none of this is true. Below is one document from the UK National Archives which quickly puts the record straight. There are many other documents that once viewed can only leave one outcome is that The MoD are right and Nick Pope is not. He did none of these things.
Nick Pope claims that before he took this job at the MoD that he was a complete skeptic and that because of the UFO cases he ‘investigated’ etc he eventually became a believer. He claims he had no prior knowledge of experience of the UFO phenomenon.
In 2021 I wrote a lengthy article detailing that once again Nick Pope was using a very large degree of ‘artistic licence’ when he came to his claim that he had never seen a UFO or had any kind of close encounter. The fact was that in January 1991 before he took the job at the MoD’s ‘UFO desk’ (a nickname for Air Staff 2A – the MoD department that handled public reports and or requests for more info on UFO sighting. It was not a ‘UFO PROJECT’) he did indeed have a, missing time’ or more accurately a ‘missing tollbooth’ encounter in Florida, USA. The basic story is that Nick was on holiday with his girlfriend and was driving on toll road with another friend asleep in the back seat. After a while they apparently found themselves reaching their destination with no recollection of actually coming off the toll road. In fact they still had their ticket which they would have had to use in order to exit the toll road. Nick was very perplexed by this and several years later he underwent regressive hypnosis in the USA. Here he recounted getting out of the car and entering a large object (UFO) but did not see any beings or aliens.
Nick Pope admitted all of this to a group of UFO researchers in 1995 after a screening of the alien autopsy film in London. Other researchers have gone on the record that this story under his own name, was to appear in his first book ‘OPEN SKIES- CLOSED MINDS’ and UK author/UFO researcher Jenny Randles even read it in the first draft of the book. However when you read this book there is no sign of Nick’s missing time episode which happened in January 1991 a few months before joining the ‘UFO desk’. However, a few years down the line Nick Pope writes his second book ‘THE UNIVITED’ which deals with accounts of alien abductions and hey presto the story is there. Well not quite. Instead of it being Nick Pope and his former girlfriend it is now ‘Peter’ and ‘Jenny’. Pope claims these are false names for two witnesses that he interviewed and it is not him and his ex-girlfriend. All this despite what Jenny Randles read in the draft of his first book and the UFO researchers that Nick told the story to in 1995. He has made a variety of different comments about this but basically he says it was not him and it’s all a pack of lies.
Well in early 2022 another gentleman has stepped forward to once again confirm that he was informed by Nick Pope that he had indeed had a missing time experience in the USA in 1991. This man is even featured in Nick Pope’s second book ‘THE UNINVITED’, the very same book where Peter (Nick Pope) and Jenny (Nick’s girlfriend) tell their missing tollbooth story.
The man in question who has now stepped forward is Cris Martin and his girlfriend that is featured with him in ‘THE UNINVITED’ is Vaunda Hosick. Their accounts are featured in Chapter 13 under the heading of ‘INTERVIEW WITH THE ALIENS (page 205 – 221). Cris joined a discussion about Nick Pope of my facebook page and this is what he later sent me on email:
“Hi Philip. As per our earlier discussion, my statement below.
I first met Nick Pope on 1996 on the set of ITV studios morning daytime show "The Time, The Place". I was with my then partner Vaunda Hoscik. Nick was promoting his first book and was preparing for his next book and made it clear he was interested in interviewing us both for his next book "The Uninvited". We went to his flat in South London several times to be interviewed about our experiences and it was at one of these meetings he also chatted about his own abduction experience whilst driving in the USA with a female friend. He wrote about it under an assumed name in the very same book. He didn't want to come out as an abductee at the time as he felt it would undermine his reputation as an impartial researcher. We both respected his right for privacy and didn't speak of it again.
Moving forward 26 years and the contextual climate has shifted. Pope has set himself up as a leading UFO commentator and public speaker. He claims to be a trustworthy commentator but his stance on whether aliens are real remains ambiguous. This is in direct conflict with his own missing time encounter. My opinion is that he cannot lie to the public any longer and must come clean. Pope cannot be regarded as trustworthy when he continues to deny that this incident occurred. I would also like to say I have no axe to grind or any grudge against Mr Pope, I just want him to stop lying and tell the truth.
I can confirm that the details given are true to the best of my knowledge.
Cris Martin, Jan 2022.”
This is what Cris originally posted on my facebook page: Cris Martin
Philip Mantle I recently tried to contact Nick and was blanked by him for some reason. I used to know him quite well back in the 90s and some of you may remember myself and my then partner were featured in his book "The Uninvited". He also wrote the foreword to my book "Intruders in the night" published in 2000. He does not seem to want to talk about his own abduction experience for some reason. Comments I have made on his FB page about this have been deleted by him. If he would lie to people about this important event, then one must ask what else is he lying about?
Cris Martin & Vaunda Hoscik.
Cris Martin
Some of the deleted facebook postings are here:
MoD letter
Conclusion:
There is no doubt in my mind that Nick pope is indeed ‘Peter’ as featured in his book ‘THE UNINVITED’ and that he did indeed have a ‘missing time’ experience in January 1991 in Florida and later went under hypnotic regression There are many reasons why Nick Pope now wants to deny this is him, one being that it would make a mockery of him comments that he knew nothing about UFOs and had never had a UFO sighting prior to joining Air Staff 2A in July 1991. His story of being converted from skeptic to believer while working at the MoD would also go straight out of the window. As Cris Martin has made clear he has no axe to grind with Nick Pope and neither have I but the UFO community deserves the truth and the facts and it will be interesting to see what excuse Nick Pope comes up with this time regarding Cris Martin’s comments. To clarify where I stand I am 100% convinced that Nick Pope is indeed ‘Peter’ and he and his girlfriend did have a missing time experience in Florida in 1991. When you also look at the MoD documents at The National Archives there is also no doubt in my mind that Nick Pope did not run the UK governments UFO project as there never was one. He did not investigate UFOs, crop circles alien abductions etc on any official basis for the MoD and he was not the UK government’s UFO expert. And last but not least he is not anything remotely like ‘the real Fox Mulder’ he was instead, as the MoD have informed us, a junior D-grade civil servant and nothing more.
Nick Pope and the ‘Missing Toll Booth Encounter’ - PART I
Nick Pope and the ‘Missing Toll Booth Encounter’ - PART I
By Philip Mantle
I’ve known Nick Pope since he worked for the Ministry of Defense (MoD) in the UK. I still have a letter or two from him in my files when he would reply to enquiries I was making at the MoD. Nick has also spoken at UFO conferences I have helped to organise and we still keep in touch, however, it is more about football than UFO’s. I have no axe to grind with Nick and I have found him to be a very amiable and helpful chap over the years.
With that in mind, I have had doubts about writing this article. I have decided to write this article in the hope it might clear up a long standing rumour and perhaps give us a better idea of why Nick Pope became interested in the UFO subject in the first place.
WHO IS NICK POPE?
For those who might not know who Nick Pope is, here is a brief cut and paste from Nick’s web site:
“Nick Pope used to run the British Government's UFO project. From 1991 to 1994 he researched and investigated UFOs, alien abductions, crop circles and other strange phenomena, leading the media to call him the real Fox Mulder. His government background and his level-headed views have made him the media, film and TV industry's go-to guy when it comes to UFOs, the unexplained and conspiracy theories. Nick Pope has consulted on and helped to promote a number of alien-themed movies, TV shows and video games. He has presented, consulted on and contributed to numerous TV shows, has written five best-selling books, and lectures all around the world. Nick Pope lives in America.”
Let’s dispel a number of falsehoods that Nick Pope has perpetuated. He did not run the British Government’s UFO Project. There never was a British Government’s UFO Project. From 1991 – 1994 the department he worked for at the MoD did handle UFO reports, etc. There was no “UFO Project”. Nick, unlike his predecessors, did put in a bit more work than they did, but that was by his own choice. He still stuck to the official MoD party line when dealing with enquiries about UFOs, and after his three years were up, he moved on. In total, he spent 21 years as a civil servant at the MoD. To confirm what I am sharing here, one can write to the MoD to inquire and confirm this information. I have also highlighted a couple of documents located in the MoD’s UFO files held at the National Archives that confirm this. (Fig 1 & Fig 2)
Early on, when Nick Pope went public and was still working at the MoD, a rumour circulated and still does to this day, claiming Nick had been involved in a case of ‘missing time’ regarding a ‘missing toll booth’ encounter. After first admitting this to a number of people it appeared in his book ‘THE UNINVITED’ as someone else. Did Nick Pope have his own ‘close encounter’ and publish it under someone else’s identity or a fictional alias?
CHRIS FOWLER
I had heard this rumour myself many years ago, and heard it again in December of 2019. UK researcher Chris Fowler was discussing the alien autopsy film hoax on social media when he reminded me of this incident with Nick Pope. The alien autopsy was screened to a selected audience at the London Museum on May 5th, 1995. Chris Fowler, myself and Nick Pope were in attendance at this screening. What happened after this Alien Autopsy screening was very interesting. Chris Fowler said:
“After the screening finished and everyone had left the area the three of us joined a crowd of people heading for a near-by cafe to discuss what we had seen over a few drinks and something to eat. Those present were Reg Presley, the bass player from the Troggs, John Holman, Kent Jeffery, Colin Andrews, Nick Pope and a few others. At the other end of the cafe sat Rob Irving. After some suggestion from Matthew, Colin joined him for a short chat about crop circles which he later referenced during one of his conference presentations. Not wanting to miss out on this photo opportunity, Matthew took a few shots of them together in mid conversation with his zoom lens. It had been a good day for his camera!
After everyone had eaten we all pulled our chairs around and had a joint discussion about what we had just seen and ufology in general. For me this was the part of the day I enjoyed the most. Reg bought everyone a drink and Dan said to me quietly that he couldn’t wait to tell one of his friends that Reg Presley of The Troggs had bought him a beer! We both had a great time talking to the bass player about the 60’s and what went on back then. Dan asked him the question, what was his favourite version of Wild Thing? “Hendrix’s of course” was his answer. It sounded like he must have had an amazing time back then, mixing and meeting all sorts of stars from The Beatles to Jimi Hendrix! What a place and time to end up talking about the 60’s music scene, more interesting than the UFO talk!
This setting also provided a better opportunity to talk to Nick Pope. I found it pretty weird that here was the UFO man from the MoD having drinks with us and talking about UFOs, just like he was one of us (the MoD are the friendly enemy as far as ufologists go!). As far as Matthew was concerned, there was only one thing he wanted to ask Nick about - Rudloe Manor. “What do you know about Rudloe Manor and what does it have to do with the investigation of UFOs?” he asked. Nick’s answered “where?” Matthew then elaborated further, citing what Tim Good had written in ‘Above Top Secret’. Nick finally said that he remembered reading something or other but didn’t really know anything about it. A white elephant that place. We all thought, yeah, sure thing!
While we were all talking, Nick came out with something that I found pretty weird, at least coming from him that is. He told us all that a few years ago, before he got the job at Air Staff 2A, he was on holiday with his girlfriend at the time in Florida and had what he described as a ‘missing road’ experience. He said that they were on a toll road and all of a sudden realised that they hadn’t passed the toll booth they would have definitely gone through. When he told us this he didn’t even say anything like “listen, off the record, something weird happened once whilst I was on holiday in Florida....” We were pretty amazed, especially when he also told us that he’d written a book on UFOs that was going to be published. Doing this would go on to make him one of the most well-known faces of British Ufology. Reg Presley I found to be a funny guy. At one point when Nick went to the toilet Reg turned to everyone and said, “when he comes back out, let’s say to him, tell us the truth about the MoD and UFOs or we’ll kick the shit out of you!”. Needless to say, the joke went down very well!
A little while later everyone started to disperse. We headed back to Dan’s house in Stratford, looking forward to telling everyone about our eventful time in London. Alien autopsy, ufologist who works for the MoD and rock stars all in one day! “
COLIN ANDREWS
I decided to make a few enquiries about this myself. I don’t have the contact details of all those folks mentioned by Chris who were there that day. Reg Presley sadly, has passed away. However, I do have the contact details of one of those mentioned as being in the café that day of May 5th, 1995. That person is Colin Andrews. I sent Colin an email and a copy of what Chris Fowler had to say, and Colin sent me a reply of January 3rd, 2020. Here it is in full:
“Hi Philip,
Yes I was there with Reg and the others. I know something was said about Nick's own unspoken experience but unless I can locate my notes for that day, I would hate to rely upon my memory. Additionally, most are not aware that I was responsible for arranging Nick's first public appearance at a UFO conference. It was in Portsmouth, New Hampshire, USA at the MUFON conference. Early 1990's. During a quiet walk outside the venue with the State Director, our wives’ and Nick, I recall the question again coming up and an evasive side-step, not really answering what happened but acknowledging that something did. Worth saying here that around this time, the MoD had to clear ALL his public statements, including his first presentation I helped MUFON arrange.”
I think it is fair to say that Colin Andrews has confirmed what Chris Fowler has said about the public statement made by Nick Pope on May 5th, 1995. Colin goes on to relate more details of Nick being quizzed about this and although he was evasive he did however acknowledge that something had indeed happened.
DANIEL HARRIS
Another of those that were present that day on May 5th 1995 and was at the café was Daniel Harris. This is a direct quote from an email I received from Daniel on January 27th 2020.
“Hi,
Thanks for your patience, been super busy for January. Hope the following helps.
In 1995 I was a third year undergraduate studying for a BSc in Psychology at the University of East London. I had considered writing my final dissertation on the impact of ufology on the social sciences or possibly the alien abduction phenomena. At that point it seemed that it was mostly American academics writing in this area and I was making efforts to meet as many people connected with research as possible. I eventually decided against it as I had strong research leads in a different area and felt it was a risky subject to commit to.
However, I did get to meet a lot of very interesting people who shared a deep, sincere and robustly academic interest in many of the same things as me, so when the opportunity came to attend a premiere screening of footage alleged to show the autopsy of a recovered extraterrestrial entity I was thrilled.
The invitation came from my friend and researcher Chris Fowler. Strictly speaking I don't think either of us had a formal invitation so I may have suggested I was a journalist to try and secure entry to the event. It was immediately clear that the interest of many in the research community had been seriously raised. As hoped, we saw some familiar faces including Reg Presley and Nick Pope both of whom we talked to immediately after the screening and stayed for a round of drinks bought by Reg who was keen to discuss what we had seen.
There remained a general level of scepticism about the footage itself as its provenance was never really established at the screening, the footage played, finished and everyone descended on Ray Santilli for answers but Ray fled!
Chris, Reg, Nick and I were left with a small number of researchers talking in small groups and shortly after Chris and I had Nick all to ourselves. Speculation about the footage had quickly evaporated and we had moved on to more personal experiences.
Now, my training kicked in. I knew when and how to shut up and listen. Nick was a very, very interesting guy and the object of a great deal of speculation and discussion in his own right. Having worked for the MoD up until 1994 and claimed to have been responsible for collating information about UFO's for the British military there was a huge amount of expectation about what he would be discussing and writing about in the future.
Nick dropped a bombshell. I don't recall if Chris had met him before but I certainly had not. What he told Chris and I stunned us. In a wider discussion about our own personal experience Nick began to tell us a story in a quite casual, unguarded way. He described a vacation in the USA he had taken with a girlfriend during which they drove a lot. Describing the toll road system Nick explained he was certain he had a section of missing time between one road and another. His toll card clearly showed entry to one route but not to the one his friend and he found themselves on. The event at the time had been significant enough for them to be a bit shaken up. They had no explanation for the missing time or record of entry on to the toll road. Nick only seems to link this experience to the UFO/abduction phenomenon much later and by the end of his story he still seemed to feel the same sense bewilderment. Chris and I both had our jaws on the floor. We couldn't believe what he'd told us. He hadn't invited us to keep the information confidential and I think we both assumed he would be going public with the story in some form.
I only wish I could remember more of the details of the story itself! I moved away from any serious interest in research shortly after but always remained sceptical of Nick's motivation for telling us the story. But, hand on heart, Nick told a very interesting tale that day and I'm sad if he feels he is unable to either recant or corroborate it.
Sincerely
Daniel Harris”
NICK REFERN's new book:
THE RENDLESHAM FOREST UFO CONSPIRACY:
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Nick Redfern
"The majority of the staff at the MoD who handled the UFO subject - Pam Titmarsh being a good example - were decidedly cagey when it came to the matter of getting chummy and chatty with ufologists. Matters began to change for the better in 1991. That was when a man named Nick Pope took over the reins in "the UFO office." He was refreshingly open - to the extent he could. So, on March 29, 1994, I decided to be proactive. I took a trip to London and had a face-to-face chat with Pope in a nearby bar. We found a quiet area where I could record the interview, got our cold beers, and began. Nick began by explaining to me funding for the MoD office - for UFO investigations - was tiny in the extreme. In Pope's own words: "There is no specific 'UFO budget', excepting the staff costs, i.e. around twenty percent of my salary, together with a tiny percentage of some other salaries, reflecting my line management's supervisory role."
And that was it. Even the U.S. Air Force's Project Blue Book had a bigger budget - and that, back in the 1950's and 1960's, was hardly what one would call astronomical. On top of that, Pope quite openly told me that he never went out of the MoD building to undertake an in-the-field-type investigation: he would simply sit at his desk and take phone-calls or handle letters from UFO witnesses and flying saucer investigators. The reports would then be sent to an arm of the Defence Intelligence for scrutiny and explanations. It was hardly like the exciting scenarios we saw the X-Files began, which was just one year before I met Pope.
From Nick Redfern on 3rd July 2010 via facebook:
“Hey Philip, Saw your email. I'm on FB most of the day today, so easier for me to reply here. Yes, that's correct Pope didn't "run" any kind of UFO program. He just handled reports that were forwarded to Defence Intelligence for an explanation. Yes, I do know of the Toll Gate (toll booth) "abduction" case he had.” Nick Redfern added a bit more concerning Nick Pope’s role at the MoD: “yeah, he was basically a civil servant receiving phone calls and letters concerning UFOs and getting advice from Defence Intelligence. To me, that's not a "UFO project." (Fig 3)
DR. DAVID CLARKE
As you can see Nick Pope made this statement about the ‘missing toll booth’ in public and there were many witnesses to what he had to say. Not to disbelieve Chris Fowler I went on to contact some old friends and colleagues about this to see if they had any information as well. The first was Dr David Clarke. David and I have been friends and colleagues for a long time and although he has some very skeptical views on UFOs, especially the ETH, he is the man who worked tirelessly to have all the MoD’s UFO documents released to the National Archives in the UK and he is the official spokesman for the National Archives and the MoD UFO files and not Nick Pope. I simply asked David if he could confirm these rumours concerning Nick Pope. He replied in full:
“The fact that Nick *is* Peter aka 'Terror at the Toll Booth' is confirmed by:
a) it remains a fact that in the early drafts of his first book 'Open Skies – Closed Minds' Nick Pope openly described the experience as having happened to him. We know this is true because Jenny Randles was asked to review the early draft by the publisher and has written openly about this. Georgina Bruni, Pope’s close friend and colleague, took her to task for allegedly breaking witness confidentiality when this emerged in 1998 but this was just perfidy. The Sunday Times had already outed him as 'Peter' and he just looks ridiculous when he keeps denying the truth, 20 years later.
b) if you have read Chris Fowler's account (and others) of what happened after the premiere of the alien autopsy film it simply confirms Jenny's account from (a) above. At that time Nick Pope was telling all and sundry he was Peter - among the witnesses were Kent Jeffery, Matthew Williams, Reg Presley, Colin Andrews and many others.
The real mystery is why, after openly admitting this in public, he suddenly decided to deny it. I suspect it was because:
a) he was forced to remove the story from the manuscript (Open Skies – Closed Minds) by the MoD reviewers because of the embarrassment value - but we will never know for sure because Nick Pope has gone to extraordinary lengths to stop his former employers from releasing the papers surrounding the clearance of his manuscripts under FOIA. However, one letter (DEFE 24/1985) dated 10 October 1995 written by Nick Pope to the division of the MoD that dealt with the clearance of his manuscript contains an interesting hand-written comment by one of the recipients. This note is one of the few to have escaped redaction and reads: “A great pity that a more permanent abduction by aliens cannot be arranged. I’m not surprised that they [Secretariat Air Staff – his former branch] didn’t want to keep him”. The context of this comment suggests a direct link to Pope’s ‘missing time’ story which at that point, 1995 remained intact in his original manuscript. (Fig 4)
Andy Roberts, Chris Fowler and myself have tried to secure access to the files that cover the clearance of his manuscript using Freedom of Information requests. My own attempt went on appeal to the Information Commissioner who decided against release because Nick Pope invoked his rights to privacy and the Human Rights Act and wrote to his former employers asking them not to release this information even if they were minded to do so. Judging by more recent responses they have now destroyed most of this material in order to ensure it will never emerge into the public domain.
However, if you read the PQ (Parliamentary Question) response to MP Norman Baker from 2003 (attached) you will see a very clear statement from a more senior MoD official who confirms there was no 'UFO project' and Nick Pope was regarded by his former colleagues as someone who was using his position to promote himself to the international media as the British government’s UFO expert when this was incorrect. This might explain why Nick Pope was keen to stop the internal discussions from emerging when the MoD released the bulk of their UFO files in 2008-2013.
b) secondly, if you read the piece of investigative chronology that I compiled (Terror on the Toll Road, below), you will see another reason why Nick Pope was reluctant to discuss his experience in Florida. If he did so it would reveal that the legend he has carefully cultivated for years, namely that he was a 'skeptic' with no interest in UFOs when he was offered the Sec (AS) job in 1991, is not accurate. According to the account in his book The Uninvited Peter’s 'missing time' experience occurred in January 1991, six months before he claims he was 'sounded out for the job' [on the so-called ‘UFO desk’]. Yet he clearly had knowledge of and connections with ufologists before that time. I have found evidence in the National Archives files that Nick Pope had some interest in UFO reports as early as 1988 when he worked for the Naval Secretariat in MoD. In that year he passed information about a UFO sighting on the Isle of Wight to the UFO desk three years before he was offered the job on the ‘UFO desk’ (Fig 5 & 6)
I suggest if you put all this evidence in front of a jury in a crown court they would, on the balance of probabilities, agree that Nick Pope is 'Peter'.
Nick Pope has some serious questions to answer and simply being a celebrity does not mean you can evade them forever (unless you are Boris Johnson of course)....Dr David Clarke”
I think it is fair to say that Nick Pope and Dr. David Clarke are not the best of friends, but I have known David a long time and I have no reason to doubt what he has to say. David also drew my attention to where Nick Pope is quoted in a book about this matter.
JANE GOLDMAN
In Jane Goldman’s book The X-Files Book of the Unexplained (Simon & Schuster 1995), the following section appears in an extended interview with Nick Pope: “…while Mulder’s desire is not just the truth, but also a resolution to the mystery of his sister’s disappearance, Nick Pope’s purpose is surely more straightforward. Or is it? ‘You could say that, like Fox Mulder, my interest is not purely an academic one and I’m driven by some personal motivations. My primary motivation is the intellectual belief that there is a genuine unknown phenomenon, and my belief in the people’s right to know, but a part of my motivation is a desire to explain some anomalous events in my own past.’…He is reluctant to go into detail but offers: ‘The very furthest I would want to go is to say that there are some events in my past which some people in the UFO lobby would say are some of the factors that are present in cases of abduction. But I want to stay on the fence until I know what happened to me.”
YUFOS MAGAZINE AND JENNY RANDLES
You can see here that Nick Pope uses the plural ‘events’. What events Nick? I’ve also outlined here an extract from the article from the YUFOS magazine and (Volume 3, September 1999) The ‘Peter’ Controversy – The Right To Reply. Here you can read in Jenny Randles own words how it was an open secret that Nick Pope is aka ‘Peter’ and the fact that he has indeed undergone his own experiences.
From YUFOS magazine September 1999: (Fig 7)
Jenny Randles………
” (Jenny had been accused of breaking witness confidentiality in revealing the true identity of ‘Peter’ in Nick Popes book THE UNIVITED). As such I am frankly livid at the suggestion that I have disregarded such ethics and – it seems the ridiculous charge is – that this was to gain publicity. You may care to know something I would not normally discuss but I seem to have to do this now in view of circumstance. Twice last year (1998) I was approached by major media sources but got the impression I would be expected to publicly identify ‘Peter’ in front of millions as a consequence. One is a TV show that I was offered a four-figure sum to work on and because I said no I will now not even feature as an interviewee. I do know the identity of Peter but declined to be associated with the things I was being asked to do. Three months after the above I was being publicly accused in Georgina Bruni’s gossip column on the internet for disregarding witness confidentiality – something your magazine now appears to reiterate. Does this make me regret that I said no to national TV exposure and a nice cheque that right now I could badly use to pay the mortgage (since I don’t get paid £50,000 to write a book). No it does not. I stood by my principles and always put them above money. Sadly not that many people in ufology are aware of how some silly twits like me seem to consider this sort of action a virtue in today’s money grabbing, fame and fortune society. As stared, I know for certain who Peter is. But ‘Peter’ asked me personally only this year not to reveal his identity in public and that I will abide by, of course. However, what I want to make abundantly clear is this. I have not gone behind anyone’s back and blabbed a confidential identity to the public. You need to understand what actually happened. Nick Pope himself revealed the identity of Peter to many people long before I did. As such I was not under any obligation nor any impression of witness confidence until that very recent request by ‘Peter’. Once a witness is publicly outed by the person writing his story I find it incredible that anyone can turn around years later and suggest it is somehow my fault if the media find out who this witness is. For the record, Nick Pope identified ‘Peter’ to a room full of ufologists in a London café in May 1995 – at least so several of them told me (indeed one who was there has already written up this story in a book!). In my presence Nick Pope shared the news with others at a UFO conference. I late 1995 I read the original manuscript of ‘Open Skies – Closed Minds’ and this told the story of Peter using the real identity of the witness. Several others read the manuscript too in 1995 and indeed were instrumental in setting up the hypnosis of Peter, which was in fact conducted by a ufologist, I gather, not a medical professional, at least if I understood correctly what was said by that ufologist in a public lecture before hundreds of people. As such the identity of Peter was common knowledge amongst quite a few folk, apparently thanks to Nick Pope himself, before even I even came to know about it, and it created a rumour sweeping ufology long before I said a word. I spoke three times face-to-face to Nick Pope between 1996 and 1998 advising him of this news and suggesting that I would not be selling the story to the media (despite several opportunities to make big money this way). He has long known that I knew. He knew how I knew (because I told him I had read his manuscript when we met for me to film an interview with him at the MoD in December 1995 – long before his book (Open Skies – Closed Minds) was even published – and indeed that night I offered suggestions to him about the text. He knew I felt it more than likely someone would tell the media soon. So I argued, you would be well advised sorting this out under your control. He told me on two separate occasions (and in front of witnesses – e.g. at the April 1995 Fortean Times conference) things like – if many people in ufology know who Peter is I don’t need to tell them, do I? And Peter’s identity will be revealed when the time is right. All fair enough, of course. It was down to Peter as and when this happened – if ever – and also Nick Pope for being the person who revealed Peter’s identity in the first place. But I truly fail to see how what I did was anything less than proper. Despite knowing who Peter was since 1995 I have said nothing during numerous media interviews when asked what I thought of Nick Pope. I did say something a couple of times in UFO circles - I admit – but after the book was out and the curious way the Peter story was being handled in public by Nick Pope became apparent. Also not until I became well aware of how various other ufologists knew Peter’s identity already via Nick Pope himself. So at no time was I responsible for deliberately breaking a witness confidence or disregarding the code of practice to expose the identity of Peter. I felt it not my place to out Peter to the media, so did not do that, but acceptable to comment to fellow ufologists, many of whom knew anyway and because I became concerned about the way Nick Pope was presenting this story and from this his stated disinclination to set the record straight. I was never at any time asked by Nick Pope to keep Peter’s identity secret, despite him knowing for four years that I was aware who Peter was and despite my speaking to him face-to-face on the matter several times during this period. Neither Peter nor Nick (who had my ex-directory phone number) made any attempt to call me, or write to me, or in and privately request that this matter was one they wished me to keep confidential. The first such request came from Peter only a matter of weeks ago – after the Georgina Bruni gossip column discussion about the matter this Spring. As for now, frankly, I have a hard time not coming straight out and telling you what I do know about the identity of Peter, given the way this has all occurred, the manner I have been scandalously accused of publicity seeking, and the extreme lengths I went to so as to play fair with Nick Pope and Peter. Whilst Nick is making money out of Peter’s story I have lost both money and opportunities by choosing not to do so. Yet somehow I am cast as the villain here. Incredible. But a promise is a promise and I will keep to it now that it has been requested – and the code of practice is a code that I chose to abide by. But I would appreciate people not jumping to conclusions. Unfortunately, Nick and Peter, that’s what happens when people only get told half the story. Best wishes, Jenny Randles.”
Here Jenny Randles confirms the public statement made by Nick Pope in the café on May 5th, 1995. Jenny also states quite clearly that Nick Pope also made other public statements about his own ‘close encounter’ at other UFO conferences and that it was a well-known fact among UFO researchers. Nick was now changing his story and saying that ‘Peter’ as outlined in chapter 12 of his book THE UNINVITED was not him but someone else.
In fact Jenny Randles had already confirmed in the media that Nick Pope was indeed ‘Peter’. In an article in The Sunday Times newspaper on February 7th, 1999 Jenny Randles stated: “When I discovered that Nick had had an experience I was mildly surprised given his position as the government expert on UFOs. What surprised me more though is why he has never admitted to it before and why he chose to describe the incident as happening to someone else. Clearly, the truth really is out there.”
Going back to the September 1999 issue of the YUFOS magazine, Dr. David Clarke also commented on the on-going discussion and accusations against Jenny Randles. David had this to say:
“Since I’ve been asked for me view on this tiresome nonsense; here it is. Nick Pope has a cheek accusing anyone of seeking publicity, as it seems to me his entire ‘career’ in ufology has been cleverly engineered to make himself as much cash and fame as possible based upon a pretty uneventful 3 or 4 years as a civil servant. Can’t blame him for that – I’d have done the same. But this whole ‘Peter’ business is a joke, and the only people fooled by it are the newcomers and the naïve. As far as I’m concerned it’s common knowledge that Peter is Nick Pope; it’s been exposed to millions via the Sunday Times, it’s in the public domain. You can’t have your cake and not eat it. The fact that Peter is Nick Pope was in the first draft of his book, and as Jenny says the man himself has told dozens of people over the past 5 years. Given those facts, he has no right to turn around now and claim otherwise, trying to turn the clock back and accuse others of being ’unprofessional’. As a journalist it is my code of practice that if someone is challenged and they say I can’t confirm, and I can’t deny’ that equals “Yes it’s true.”
Here David Clarke is referring to Nick pope’s comment in the Sunday Times article when he says he was unable to confirm or deny the allegations that he was Peter. Surely if Nick Pope was not Peter then here was chance to publicly deny them but instead he fudged it. Why did he do this. In the article Nick claims it was because ‘Peter’ had fallen out with his girlfriend and he didn’t want her to be involved. How could his girlfriend ‘Jenny’ be involved if Peter was not Nick Pope? Nick had a great opportunity to say that he could not identify the ‘real’ names of Peter and Jenny as they had wished to remain anonymous. But no, he fudged it instead. This was not the first time that Nick Pope had that opportunity to deny that he was Peter.
PHILIP KINSELLA
Philip Kinsella is a close encounter witness, author a public speaker in the UK and he too adds his own account of the discussion over Nick Pope’s own alleged encounter. This time it was at a TV studio and not a café in London. Philip Kinsella provided the following for me on January 3rd, 2020.
“In September 1998, I had been invited onto a live television debate broadcast by Carlton Television in Nottingham regarding UFOs. The program had been hosted by the Scottish presenter, Kay Adams and was to be a balanced view on the subject-matter. I had no idea at the time what the program had been called, until we’d entered the studio which had been littered with a somewhat negative audience. It had been titled ‘X-Files or X-Fools.’ I had been asked to attend by a producer who’d seen me talk on Channel Four, and thought I’d be a good speaker. I was joined by UFO investigator, Omar Fowler, along with Nick Pope, Georgina Bruni, Malcolm Robinson, Terry Le Richie Walters, Andy Roberts, to name but a few. After we’d taken our seats and the countdown began, Kay Adams began her introduction which seemed less than appealing, drawing more into the negative with regards to the UFO reality. A member from the audience firstly quizzed Nick Pope, (former Ministry of Defence) about him deliberately having a chapter retracted from one of his books, apparently dealing with a personal abduction Nick Pope himself had experienced. Pope merely allowed the man to rant on without either confirming or denying the said episode. This had been the first time I’d heard anything about these said allegations. I must state that both Nick Pope and Georgina Bruni, author of ‘You Can’t Tell the People’ had been very kind to me back then. If Pope’s experience is real, then I believe a great many within the UFO community would support him. After all, he is a man of integrity and kindness. “
Although Nick Pope did not make any statements here regarding the allegations made against him surely it would have been the perfect opportunity to deny them on live TV. It does however show that the story of Nick Pope having his own close encounter and the fact that he had removed the details of this from his first book ‘Open Skies – Closed Minds’. Dr David Clarke and Jenny Randles had also confirmed this.
A FORMER GIRLFRIEND
If the above wasn’t enough I wanted to see if I could locate someone who was a friend of Nick Pope and was not directly linked to ufology. This I did by contacting one of his girlfriends from the late 1990’s. The lady in question is a well known author and broadcaster and I contacted her via email to ask if she knew about her former boyfriend’s missing time experience. I’ll not mention her real name instead I’ll refer to her as ‘Mary’. In an email I received from Mary on January 14th 2020 she informed me:
“Great to hear from you - but sorry to disappoint. Until I got your email I had completely forgotten about Nick's 'missing time' episode with his girlfriend. I do know she was indeed the daughter of some US government high-up, which I personally thought at the time to be important somehow in his UFO interest. All I can say is that he told me it did happen to them, and as far as I can recall, as you describe. “
I have met ‘Mary’ just once many years ago and have only on rare occasions exchanged emails with her. She does not appear to me to suffer from the ‘woman scorned’ syndrome so I have no doubt that what she has said in answer to my query about Nick Pope is in fact true.
THE UNINVITED – Chapter 12 – Terror on the Toll Road
I have a signed copy of this book THE UNIVITED by Nick Pope. It was signed to me and my ex-wife Sue. The first thing that I would say about the book is the statement on its front cover ‘THE GOVERNMENT’S UFO EXPERT’. Now Nick may say he had no say in what the publisher puts on the cover, but one is for sure he is and never was the government’s UFO expert. As I have already pointed out despite what Nick Pope says, there never was a British Government UFO Project therefore he could not be the head of it.
Moving on, I think it only fair that we look at chapter 12 of this book as this is where ‘Peter’ tells his story. First off in the second paragraph on page 191 Nick states that: “Although there have been a number of anomalous incidents in Peter’s life, the only one he wishes to talk about for the moment is the one detailed in this chapter. Of course Nick Pope in his interview with Jane Goldman is quoted as saying “but a part of my motivation is a desire to explain some anomalous events in my own past. The very furthest I would want to go is to say that there are some events in my past which some people in the UFO lobby would say are some of the factors that are present in cases of abduction. But I want to stay on the fence until I know what happened to me.” A coincidence? Both Peter and Nick having anomalous incidents (plural) in their past? In the book ‘Peter’ is acknowledged as being British but at the time he was in a relationship with ‘Jenny’ and American woman. The encounter in question took place on January 3rd, 1991 during a holiday in Florida. They were driving on to Boca Raton on the Florida Turnpike. They had a friend ‘Sharon’ asleep in the back of their vehicle. The essence of the strange event that was about to take place is that ‘Peter’ and ‘Jenny’ suddenly found themselves on the outskirts of Boca Raton and they had not turned off the toll road at the exit they had on their map. In fact the money they had ready to pay their toll and the ticket were still on the dashboard of their car. Both Peter and Jenny realised that something strange had taken place and were both scared and puzzled. Upon arrival at their destination the couple talked a lot about what had happened but strangely did not mention it to their companion ‘Sharon’ who had slept through it all. Sometime after the experience Jenny returned home to the USA (she had been studying in the UK) and their relationship ended. A few months later the experience was to come back to Peter after reading a book by UK UFO researcher John Spencer. The book is called ‘Perspectives’ and deals with close encounters, missing time and alien abduction accounts. Peter was shocked to read of a similar experience to his in this book. There was a ‘missing time’ account in the book from a witness who suddenly was startled to see a sign post for home. This reminded Peter of the event on the Florida Turnpike. The book however mentioned an alien abduction scenario, and this scared Peter. Peter is said not to have finished reading the book and he was forced to reassess the incident on the toll road. Again, we must also return again to the interview that Nick Pope gave to Jane Goldman for her book; ‘The very furthest I would want to go is to say that there are some events in my past which some people in the UFO lobby would say are some of the factors that are present in cases of abduction. But I want to stay on the fence until I know what happened to me.” Is this not what ‘Peter’ says as well?
Although the idea of alien abduction seemed ridiculous he had to admit that something was going on. Peter put this experience to the back of his mind and over the next few years he became increasingly interested in the UFO subject but felt no good reason why he should re-visit the incident on the Florida Turnpike in 1991. The book then goes on the say that Peter made a trip to the USA in the Autumn of 1995, but rather surprisingly there is no mention why he made this trip or what he went to the USA for. During the trip Peter was to receive an offer of regression hypnosis, aimed at getting to the bottom of the event on the toll road in 1991 with Jenny. Under regression hypnosis a quite extraordinary story is uncovered. It’s a long story so I’ll briefly say that Peter states that the car was slowly pulled off the road, his girlfriend Jenny was sat next to him and she was like a statue. The car was in a clearing of trees about 100 feet up in the air. The trees were illuminated by a light. Peter undid his seatbelt, opened the car door and literally walked in thin air. The next thing he remembers is that he stepped up to avoid a bulkhead. Peter was suddenly then in a metallic corridor which he described as being six feet high and three feet wide. His surroundings reminded him of a naval ship, something that he was moderately familiar with. There was tubular yellow lights on the floor. Peter found an opening to his left and he found himself in a rectangular room. The room was piled high with cardboard boxes that seemed to be full of junk. Peter wasn’t sure what was in these boxes, but some items seemed to be associated with road maintenance. Peter eventually left the room and returned from where had come and walked in this air again back to the car in the trees. Jenny was still sitting there motionless. Peter did not recall seeing Sharon. He got back in the car and it was returned to the ground spinning as it did. This made Peter feel sick and then the car was not returned to where they were on the toll road but on the highway outside of Boca Raton. When Peter came out of the hypnosis he was asked how long he thought the session had lasted. Peter thought it was twenty or thirty minutes, but he was told that it was almost one and a half hours. Accordingly Peter is said that he is not prepared to label himself an abductee, although he realizes this is an aspect that no doubt would be suspected by ufologists. Peter is not prepared to say that the corridor and the room were on a spaceship, and as has been stated he saw no evidence of any entities. Despite this, there is no escaping the fact that if the event occurred as Peter remembers, then he was taken – without consent – and subjected to a truly bizarre experience. There must, surely have been some purpose behind it” The last paragraph of this chapter is: “Peter’s subsequent recollections might suggest an abduction, uncertainties about regression hypnosis must cast doubt on this. And if these events did happen, there is no way to be sure whether they occurred in the physical universe, in the internal, psychological universe, or in some other reality about which we can only speculate.”
What can we say about ‘Peter’ and ‘Jenny’s’ missing toll booth event? Well the first thing that I noticed was that Peter does not tell us why he was returning to the USA or even what part of the USA he was visiting. He was happy to tell us that in 1991 he was there with his girlfriend on holiday. So how come he can’t tell us why and where he was going in 1995? The oddest thing is of course was that during his trip to the USA in the Autumn of 1995 an offer of regression hypnosis was made to him. Is it only me that finds this a bit peculiar? I’m not aware of regressive hypnosis simply being offered to random British tourists entering the USA. Surely such an arrangement must have been made in advance or at least discussed. However there is no mention of how this offer of regression hypnosis came about, where it took place and more importantly by whom. In his account Peter also mentions the fact that the bulkhead etc reminded him of a navy vessel and that he had some familiarity with such. I would like to remind everyone that before Nick Pope worked at the MoD in London he worked at the Naval Secretariat in Portsmouth. Is this why Peter (Nick Pope) was familiar with naval vessels?
PHILIP MANTLE
So, Nick Pope has made these very claims in public on several occasions, the details were in the original draft of his first book OPEN SKIES - CLOSED MINDS which was read by Jenny Randles . The ‘Peter’ story and the missing toll booth encounter was published in Nick Pope’s book ‘THE UNIVITED’, however, ‘Peter’ is in fact Nick Pope. The story is also published in The Sunday Times newspaper and Nick is also quoted in Jane Goldman’s book. And last but not least we have a document signed by Nick Pope himself from 1988 showing that he already had an interest in the UFO subject prior to working at the MoD from 1991 – 1994 at Air Staff and dealing with UFO enquiries as part of his job. We also have an official document from the MoD clearly showing that there was no British Government UFO Project. Nick Pope had the opportunity on several occasions to publicly deny that he was Peter, in national newspapers and on live TV, but he declined to do so. When you read chapter 12 of THE UNINVITED there are several similarities to quotes that Nick Pope had given but now were being said by ‘Peter’. There is no mention of why Peter went to the USA in 1995 or which part he visited. There is no description of how the offer of regressive hypnosis was made, who conducted it and where. Then we have both ‘Peter’ and Nick Pope having a familiarity with naval vessels. All a coincidence? I think not. When you put all of this information there is only one conclusion that you can arrive at, Nick Pope and ‘Peter’ are one of the same. Of that I have no doubt.
NICK POPE AND HIS REPLY
With all this information to hand I had to ask Nick Pope himself what he made of it and give him the right to reply. Nick replied to my enquiry on December 18th, 2019:
“Hi Philip,
The story was based on a US abduction report that I investigated, but my (fictional) involvement was a 'barium meal test'. I do a similar thing in the manuscripts of my books, to identify any pre-publication leakers - the written version of a barium meal test is generally referred to as a 'canary trap'. Just some sneaky MoD techniques I picked up over the years!
Nick Pope and the ‘Missing Toll Booth Encounter’ - PART II
Nick Pope and the ‘Missing Toll Booth Encounter’ - PART II
IN SUMMARY
I have to be honest but to me Nick Pope’s ‘explanation’ for this simply doesn’t fit the information provided. For example why would you write the story into a manuscript, have Jenny Randles (and others) read this draft, and then remove it from the published book? Why would you mention it in public with a number of well-known UFO researchers there after the screening of the alien autopsy film? Why would you talk to author Jane Goldman about ‘anomalous event’s’ in your past? Surely Jane Goldman wasn’t in Nick’s ‘canary trap’ as well? No. Not at all. Now, you might not agree with me and like I pointed out right at the beginning of this article, I have no axe to grind with Nick, but his explanation simply does not add up. Of course I can’t prove this and at the end of the day only Nick Pope knows for sure the real story, but I think there is more than enough evidence here to say that there is certainly no smoke without fire and I am convinced that this is no ‘canary trap’ and that Nick Pope is indeed ‘Peter’ and that he has indeed undergone a close encounter experience (or possibly several). If this is correct then why would Nick Pope not admit it? Well, Nick likes to sit on the fence and to admit such a thing may spoil his appearance as a neutral observer and commentator. There are many reasons why Nick Pope might like to keep this under his hat and all I can say is if you want to know his reasons for doing so then just ask him.
‘Terror on the Toll Road’ - Timeline
1985: Nick Pope joins Ministry of Defence (MoD).
1988: Whilst working for the Naval Secretariat at MoD, Pope passes information concerning a UFO sighting on the Isle of Wight to Clive Neville on the UFO desk in Whitehall.
1990-91: Christmas – ‘Peter’ and ‘Jenny’ take a 3 week holiday in Florida, Jenny’s homeland. Peter is British and has had ‘several anomalous incidents’ in his life; he met Jenny while she was studying in London. (Uninvited, p 192).
1991: January 3rd: After spending the day at Universal Studios, Peter and Jenny drive back to Boca Raton via Florida Turnpike. They experience a ‘missing road’ experience en route. ‘…neither Peter nor Jenny had any knowledge of or interest in UFOs, other than a general awareness that the UFO mystery existed’ (Uninvited, p 195).
1991: July 17th, ‘Sounded out for Owen Hartop’s job’ at Sec (AS) 2a. According to interview published in IUR ‘I had just finished various duties associated with the Gulf War and it just so happened that there was a vacancy which cropped up. Also in this office was a chap I had worked with quite closely…and he offered me the job. I was aware that UFO research was one of its functions’. Asked if he had any previous interest in UFOs he replied: ‘Very minimal. I had seen a couple of documentaries, read one Charles Berlitz book on the Bermuda Triangle. I knew very little about the subject and went in with a clean slate, so to speak.’
1991: July 29th. Nick Pope began work on the ‘UFO desk’.
1991/2: Peter and Jenny split up; Jenny returns to USA to go to university. The memory of the ‘missing road’ incident slips from their conscious memory but Peter is reminded on reading a book ‘a few months later’ which ‘he found in a second hand shop’ (John Spencer’s Perspectives). This contains a UFO abduction account involving missing time on a road.
1992: ‘Peter put his own experience from his mind over the next few years, and while he became increasingly fascinated with the UFO mystery, he never felt any urge to explore what might have happened on that Florida Turnpike in 1991’ (Uninvited, p 197).
1994: April – Nick Pope interviewed by Lawrence Moore for Network First TV programme on Central TV.
1995: May 5th – Nick Pope attends screening of Alien Autopsy film at Museum of London. Afterwards he joins a party of UFOlogists at a nearby café. The party includes Chris Fowler & friend, Reg Presley, John Holman, Kent Jeffery, Colin Andrews and Matthew Williams. Fowler, in an account of the meeting, writes: ‘while we were talking, Nick came out with something that I found pretty weird…he told us all that a few years ago, before he got the job at Air Staff 2A, he was on holiday with his girlfriend at the time in Florida and had what he described as a ‘missing road’ experience. He said they were on a toll road and all of a sudden realised they hadn’t passed the toll booth they would have definitely gone through. When he told us this he didn’t even say anything like ‘listen, off the record, something weird happened once while I was on holiday in Florida’. We were pretty amazed, especially when he also told us that he’d written a book on UFOs that was going to be published.’
1995: July – Nick Pope leaves Sec (AS), after 3 years tour of duty. Moves to financial secretariat. Replaced by Kerry Philpott as UFO desk officer.
1995: July 2nd – Mail on Sunday reveals that Nick Pope has become a believer in ET visitors and is to publish a book on his work at Sec (AS).
1995: autumn – ‘Peter’ made a visit to the USA. ‘During this trip Peter was to receive an offer of regression hypnosis, aimed at resolving once and for all what – if anything – had transpired on that toll road.’ (Uninvited, p 197) The hypnosis session lasted 1.5 hours and narrative emerged (p 199 of Uninvited). Peter not prepared to label himself an abductee but ‘he acknowledges that he had been exposed to information about UFOs and abductions prior to his regression.’ (Uninvited, p201).
1995: December (?) Jenny Randles films interview with Pope at Whitehall. She also reads draft of Open Skies-Closed Minds ‘and this told the story of Peter using the real identity of the witness…several others read the manuscript too and indeed were instrumental in setting up the hypnosis of Peter, which was in fact conducted by a UFOlogist…not a medical professional, at least if I understood what was said by that UFOlogist in a public lecture before hundreds of people’ (Project Red Book, September 1999)
1995: In Jane Goldman’s book The X-Files Book of the Unexplained (Simon & Schuster 1995), the following section appears in an extended interview with Pope: “…while Mulder’s desire is not just the truth, but also a resolution to the mystery of his sister’s disappearance, Nick Pope’s purpose is surely more straightforward. Or is it? ‘You could say that, like Fox Mulder, my interest is not purely an academic one and I’m driven by some personal motivations. My primary motivation is the intellectual belief that there is a genuine unknown phenomenon, and my belief in the people’s right to know, but a part of my motivation is a desire to explain some anomalous events in my own past.’…He is reluctant to go into detail but offers: ‘The very furthest I would want to go is to say that there are some events in my past which some people in the UFO lobby would say are some of the factors that are present in cases of abduction. But I want to stay on the fence until I know what happened to me.”
1996: June. Open Skies – Closed Minds published.
1997: June. The Uninvited published; book contains section on Toll-road case, chapter 12.
1999: February 7th. Sunday Times publish article ‘UFO Hunter at MOD ‘kidnapped by aliens’, quoting Jenny Randles.
Spring: 1999: Georgina Bruni accuses Jenny Randles of ‘disrespecting witness confidentiality’ in discussing Peter’s identity with the News of the World.
Jenny Randles
Nick Pope and Philip Mantle
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An unidentified flying object, as seen by a U.S. Navy jet.
(Image credit: U.S. Navy)
In early June, NASA announced that it's commissioning an independent study on unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP), as UFOs have recently been rebranded.
"NASA believes that the tools of scientific discovery are powerful and apply here also," Zurbuchen said in a statement(opens in new tab). "We have access to a broad range of observations of Earth from space – and that is the lifeblood of scientific inquiry. We have the tools and team who can help us improve our understanding of the unknown. That's the very definition of what science is. That's what we do."
The UAP study team will be led by astrophysicist David Spergel, previously the chair of the astrophysics department at Princeton University.
"Given the paucity of observations, our first task is simply to gather the most robust set of data that we can," Spergel said in the NASA statement. "We will be identifying what data — from civilians, government, non-profits, companies — exists, what else we should try to collect and how to best analyze it."
Space.com reached out to a number of UAP and UFO (unidentified flying object) groups and leading experts in the field to get their thoughts on NASA's new endeavor.
NASA should be congratulated for its willingness to investigate UAP, said Robert Powell, executive board member of the Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies.
"During their press conference, it was clear that they would provide an exemplary approach to the subject by combining scientific rigor, transparency and a fundamental curiosity about this longstanding mystery," Powell said. "All scientists interested in the study of these phenomena should welcome NASA's entry into the arena as an indication that the time has come for the scientific community to openly examine this subject, and it is hoped that Congress will appropriate funding to open the study of this enigma to all of academia."
Powell said that the Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies would urge NASA to tap into the background knowledge that has already been obtained by other science organizations and become familiar with "the pitfalls and successes in the study of this subject." This will enable more rapid scrutiny of UAP development areas that need expanded scientific involvement, he said.
"In order to facilitate a rapid acquirement of known data, the new NASA UAP group should consider identifying an individual that can coordinate data and information sharing with established UAP organizations," Powell said. "This will help avoid duplication of efforts."
Win-win development
Also welcoming NASA's new study is Avi Loeb, head of Harvard's Galileo Project, a systematic scientific search for evidence of extraterrestrial technological artifacts.
The Galileo Project is currently assembling its first telescope system on the roof of the Harvard College Observatory, planning an expedition to retrieve fragments from the first known interstellar meteor, studying satellite data on UAP and designing a space mission to rendezvous with the next anomalous ('Oumuamua-like) interstellar object that zooms into our solar system.
Overall, this outcome is gratifying and represents a "win-win" development, Loeb said. "The Galileo Project is now likely to receive a boost to its funding from wealthy individuals and foundations with which I am in close contact," he wrote in the essay. "But most importantly, the Project's scientific mission narrative is now echoed within the government. It does not matter who tells the truth as long as it is being told."
Work is underway atop the Harvard College Observatory to keep an eye on the unknown, as part of the Galileo Project. (Image credit: Galileo Project/Avi Loeb)
Fishing expedition
Loeb said that it's wonderful that NASA will be engaged in trying to unravel the mysterious nature of UAP. He tags this quest as a "fishing expedition," one that will end up with a mixed bag of natural and human-made objects.
"But even if we have high-quality data on just a single object that demonstrates something else, such as an extraterrestrial technological origin, it would represent the most important discovery in human history," Loeb told The Jerusalem Post recently(opens in new tab).
Loeb said he would be delighted to provide any input that could help NASA's study, "because it shares the intellectual DNA of the Galileo Project," he wrote in the essay. "Government agencies and academia should be working together towards the collection of new evidence-based knowledge on UAP."
Open mindedness applies also to scientific research, Loeb said. "We should explore the unknown by seeking evidence agnostically and not assuming what we might find. Gladly, we now know that both the Galileo Project and NASA agree on following this principle."
A seemingly metallic object can be seen as a tiny blip in split-second footage taken from a U.S. Navy pilot's cockpit. (Image credit: Department of Defense)
UAP are best investigated openly, Rodeghier said, "both because this will allow a range of qualified researchers to be involved, but also because this will permit the results of the investigation to be shared with the public."
The military has advanced sensor capabilities, and that may be crucial for gathering critical data on the phenomenon, said Rodeghier. "But I have concern that findings will, as a matter of course, not be shared with the public. Those of us who have been advocating for years that more resources be devoted to studying UAP have always recommended that this be done openly and transparently."
Rodeghier said that, at this stage, NASA is conducting reconnaissance to learn what data are available and how best to study the phenomenon — which is exactly the right start — and he is not concerned about coordination with the military.
"Down the road, there could be potential for overlap and redundancy in the two efforts, but science is normally best done with multiple research groups working on the same problem, and UAPs are no different," Rodeghier told Space.com. "I do hope that NASA reaches out to the serious UFO community, because we can advise them on data and data-quality issues that we understand from long experience. Our involvement will make their study more robust and comprehensive."
"I think it's great that NASA, the U.S. Navy, and other organizations are starting to take the UFO question seriously. However, I find it strange that the U.S. Air Force, which has been openly investigating this phenomenon since the 1940s(opens in new tab), is completely quiet on the issue in modern times," said Michael Masters, a professor of biological anthropology at Montana Technological University.
In his new book, "The Extratempestrial Model" (Full Circle Press, 2022), Masters makes the case that UFOs and aliens are our future human descendants, coming back through time to visit and study their own evolutionary past.
Masters spotlights a number of case studies of close encounters. It seems that whenever a case involved military personnel specifically, he said, the Air Force Office of Special Investigations was all over it. "Why are they so quiet now? Why aren't these offices talking to each other and sharing information and data they've collected across multiple decades?"
Stigma has lifted
"I think NASA's involvement is extremely significant," said investigative journalist Leslie Kean, author of The New York Times bestseller "UFOs: Generals, Pilots and Government Officials Go on the Record" (Harmony Books, 2010).
"We have to remember that when Jimmy Carter was president, he asked NASA to conduct just the sort of assessment that the agency is undertaking now. NASA said no to the president of the United States. Now, NASA has initiated data gathering on its own. Clearly the stigma has lifted. We are living in a different world with respect to UAP," Kean said.
At this stage, NASA's task is simply to gather data, Kean said — to find out what data researchers have, what more they should collect and then determine how to analyze it.
"So we may not be given any major revelations in the near term," she added. "However, this is clearly the first step. And what's really important is that they are looking for data from civilians as well as from government. They will not be working with classified data and will make everything transparent to the public. This should stimulate additional scientific investigation, and it will greatly help lift the stigma even further within the scientific community."
NASA's UAP look-see should help groups like the Galileo Project, and hopefully data can be shared between those two organizations, said Kean. "I hope NASA accesses data from space. If we can document the existence of UAP in space, then we really have something."
Energy, experience and expertise
Kevin Knuth is an associate professor of physics at the University at Albany (State University of New York). He is an active UAP researcher.
"Given that pilots have been, and still are, reluctant to come forward regarding encounters with unidentified aerial phenomena, one must seriously ask whether NASA astronauts have seen significant unidentified phenomena in space," Knuth said. "I would hope that the NASA UAP investigation interviews NASA astronauts to determine what may have been witnessed in space. Perhaps there will also be interviews of former or current cosmonauts?"
Given that civilian organizations are becoming more active in space, there is the potential for a new safety issue involving UAPs, said Knuth. "Does NASA plan to require astronauts to report encounters with unknown objects in space like the U.S. Navy now does?"
Knuth points out that there are a number of former and current NASA scientists actively working to study UAPs via several research groups, including Loeb's Galileo Project. "I would hope that the NASA study team takes advantage of their energy, experience and expertise on the topic," Knuth said.
Not everyone is enthusiastic about the NASA UAP effort.
"NASA says that they are establishing an independent group of investigators to look into UAP reports, but it's difficult to see why this is expected to accomplish anything," said Robert Sheaffer, a leading skeptical investigator of UFOs.
For 75 years there have been plenty of people looking into UFO/UAP claims, some of them very educated, and still no solid findings have emerged, Sheaffer said. "So what does NASA bring to the table that wasn't there before? Do people really think that no astronomers or physicists have ever investigated UFO reports until now?"
Sheaffer pointed out that NASA's budget for its UAP appraisal is a modest $100,000, "which in the overheated world of government contracts won't even pay for a single full-time researcher for one year."
By contrast, from 2008 to 2011, the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program gave $22 million to the Nevada-based company Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies to investigate UAPs and their allegedly "collocating" weirdnesses, Sheaffer said.
"It ended up with reports of poltergeists, paranormal wolf-like creatures and malevolent blue orbs attacking people, but they still learned nothing about the nature of UAPs," he said. "The Department of Defense refused to appropriate any money after that."
Sheaffer senses that the problem is not that there is too much data to analyze; rather, there are only anecdotal reports, blurry photos and other shaky information.
"Those who are familiar with the history of 75 years of UFO reports understand the perils of taking eyewitness reports at face value, a lesson that government investigators of high strangeness apparently have yet to learn," Sheaffer said.
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According to UFO expert Jerome Clark, one of the most remarkable encounters with the third kind happened on September 16, 1994, at the Ariel School, Ruwa, Zimbabwe. 62 students, whose average age was 10, saw mysterious objects in the sky at 10:15 local time. They later described them as round structures with a metal surface and red lights. Their lights were flashing. The UFOs seemed to dissolve several times, and then reappear in another place.
One of the three UFOs began to descend at a leisurely pace and finally landed on the ground behind trees, 100 meters from the school. This incident frightened the children and they called the teachers. Just at the time of theUFO landing, all the teachers of the school were attending a meeting and did not immediately take the children’s cries seriously.
As the students later said, they ran to the landing site in front of the Ariel school and saw a bunch of light hovering or standing on the ground behind a small grove. This light turned out to be a giant round UFO with a metallic surface. Some children claimed to have seen humanoid figures standing near the flying object.
The site of the alleged Ariel UFO landing on September 16, 1994. Credit: Gunter Hofer via Dailymail
According to the children, the humanoids were short, wore black overalls, and had a pale complexion. Their eyes were oval and black (similar to the descriptions of Greys). The schoolchildren described the hair of aliens as long and black. The aliens reportedly did not speak.
However, several children claimed to have heard fragmentary phrases that dealt with the topic of environmental pollution on Earth. Most of the students at Ariel Elementary School got scared and ran back to the school to tell the teachers about their encounter. The teachers confirmed that there was a panic among the children.
Just a few minutes after the landing in the field of the Ariel school, the UFO took off again. The teachers also approached the object’s landing site but found no trace of the flying saucer there. The stories of the schoolchildren differed in some details regarding the UFO itself, the aliens, and the sequence of events.
Dedicated Investigation
Four days after the incident, local reporter Cynthia Hind analyzed it by first having the students writing down their impressions on paper and then asking them what exactly had happened there. In addition, Hind conducted interviews with the teachers and parents of schoolchildren.
The journalist believed that the children were telling the truth, although their stories sounded bizarre. Hind, who died in 2000, had publicly acknowledged her own experiences with otherwordly beings in the past, and had dedicated a decade and a half of her life to investigating UFO sightings on the African continent on behalf of the Mutual UFO Network, and then publishing her findings in the very collectible newsletter, UFO Afrinews.
“I had brought along a printout of Issue 11, which I opened on the bar counter before Sarah on Hind’s article “UFO flap in Zimbabwe: Case No 95”. It begins: “Wednesday, 14th September 1994, was an exciting night for Southern Africa. Roundabout 20:50 to 21:05 hours, a pyrotechnic display of some magnificence appeared in the almost clear night skies of this part of the continent.”
Some thought that the figures were Zvikwambo (spirits of humans, raised by magic) or tokoloshe (evil goblin creatures of Shona and Ndebele folklore). Hind believed these different interpretations, accompanied by similar drawings and descriptions, gave more credibility to the idea that the children had all seen a similar event.
She also believed that the kids would not have had access to the media about UFOs which could have tainted their testimony or planted similar images in their imaginations, telling the TV show Sightings “a lot of these children don’t go to the movies. They live in the country. Parents are farmers”. The argument that if they had not encountered these images before and then described something similar gives more credibility to their alien encounter being real.
Two months later, in November 1994, Dr. John E. Mack, a Pulitzer prize-winning author (awarded for his 1977 study of Lawrence of Arabia, A Prince of Our Disorder: The Life of TE Lawrence) and a professor of psychiatry at the Harvard Medical School performed his analysis, which lasted for 48 hours. And, based on the results of the interviews, he came to the conclusion that the students had really experienced the event and perceived it exactly as they described it.
“It looked like it was glinting in the trees. It looked like a disc. Like a round disc,” one child witness told the BBC a few days after the incident. “I saw something silver on the ground amongst the trees. And a person in black,” another child said.
Mack has recently been investigated by Harvard for giving credence to the idea of the witnesses who had “reported a ‘close encounter’ with an Extraterrestrial life form that this experience might well have been real.”
In 2008, the documentary “Ariel Phenomenon,” directed by Randall Nickerson, was released. He interviewed many former students who witnessed the visit of aliens near the Ariel school, and they all insisted that everything happened exactly as they described it.
Based on the descriptions of the students who witnessed the incident near the Ariel School, the humanoid alien figures are very similar to typical Greys. At the same time, one detail differs from the classic image of the grey: the creatures that were seen near the Ariel school in Zimbabwe had long black hair on their heads.
One student drew a picture of an alien that allegedly came out of the UFO in front of the group of school children
UFO sketch by Ariel school children
UFO sketch by Ariel school children
UFO sketch by Ariel school children
Nickerson believes he himself is a victim of UFO abduction, suggesting it on The Oprah Winfrey Show. This will lead some to believe that his work is biased to reinforce his own preconceptions of what UFOs might be.
New Photographs
Recently, Dailymail has published photographs of wedge-shaped impressions in the “rock-hard” soil and an oval indentation in the long grass allegedly left by the craft on the ground. Photographer Gunter Hofer was one of the first on the scene to document what happened, and shared his photos with DailyMail.com.
A marked photo illustrates the wedge-shaped impressions found in the dry soil within the grass after the alleged UFO sighting. Image Credit: Gunter Hofer via Dailymail
Hofer realized some of the children had also seen UFOs the day before on the other end of the campus, which led him to discover the physical evidence.
“We noticed some of the kids drew two objects. One object looked like a cigar, and they labeled that ‘Thursday. Then they drew what they saw on Friday the 16th which is more of a disc-like, oval-shaped object,” Hofer told to Dailymail.
Hofer said two boys had told him that on Thursday, September 15, 1994, they saw a craft with flashing lights flying above the power lines at the other end of the playground.
“It was moving, disappeared, instantly reappeared somewhere else, and then vanished,” he said.
He further added: “It was in that location he found the flattened grass and wedge markings. The earth there was rock-solid due to a long drought in Zimbabwe. So whatever made that mark really dug in hard.”
The Ariel school report takes its place among a number of other prominent mass sightings of strange UFOs involving schoolchildren. In 1966, approximately 200 students and staff reported seeing a cigar-shaped UFO, landing near their school in Melbourne, Australia. A similar witness report came from a school in Miami, Florida, in 1967. So did children in Britain report a UFO landing near their school in 1977, some also claiming to have seen strange beings outside the craft.
People often say that UFO disclosure is near, but if you take a look around its beyond near. There is more and more UFO disclosure every day. It just depends on where you look.
In fact, even the NY times recently published an article sharing three movies that were supplied by the Pentagon of US Navy UFO Sightings, movies in which UFO’s executed moves that man-made technology is really not capable of. This has defied our understanding of physics and aerodynamics.
In one of these three encounters, an object (UFO) fell from 60,000 feet high right down to sea level and then began to hover immediately, and all of this happening in less than a second. This same device (identical) would then transfer to other areas simultaneously and then materialise in other areas, what seemed to be remote time travel, an instant transfer of the ship. All this while allegedly predicting the Navy Pilot’s future position!
The New York Times also published a report entitled ‘off world cars’ being recovered. Many similar and related encounters have been published as the paperwork has become declassified over the the last twenty years. Only one event from the Navy has received significant mainstream publicity in that time.
Another factor that plays itself out time and time again is that failure of electrical instruments, especially the vital ones on military planes. How is that possible? One recurring event is the inability to fire their armament or air radar, causing these instruments to go crazy.
So What Exactly Happened?
For the past few years without us knowing the United States Department of Defense was working on a secret mission with their “Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force” otherwise known as UAPTF. They have been keeping those who need to be abreast on the information informed. They have been briefing lawmakers, Intelligence community stakeholders (I wonder who they are?), as well as the highest levels of The US military informed on encounters that defy regular aerial expectations.
Christopher Mellon, the Former Deputy Assistant Secretary Of Defense For Intelligence tweeted out about a possible leak which brought it to our attention. It came with several photographs as well as video footage for the Navy troops.
The Images Were Taken in an F18 By A Navy Pilot
The Debrief States..
The Pentagon has acknowledged that US Navy Troops recorded multiple leaked photographs and a video exhibiting unidentified aerial phenomena, or UAP, involving instances presently under investigation by the Department of Defense’s Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force. Susan Gough, a Pentagon spokesperson informed the debrief in an email.”
Susan Gough, the founder of the Black Vault, which is a well known Government website did end up verifying the tapes in her statement. There was also an interview with former CIA director James Woolsey.
Pictures Obtained From the F18 Pilot in Sky Of The UFO
On April 6, 2021 these photos were leaked. KLAS investigative journalist George Knapp released the first photo, now known as “Acorn” as well as two other new photos indicating unidentified flying objects.
The other two photos were coined “the metallic blimp” and “spherical” were named by Knapp. These were said to be obtained within 30 minutes of each other on the same day.
The second image seems to be clear and transparent as well as spherical. Take a look for yourself:
“We are talking about objects that have been seen by Navy and Air Force pilots or have been picked up by satellite imagery that frankly engage in actions that are difficult to explain,” “movements that are hard to replicate, that we don’t have the technology for or traveling at speeds that exceed the sound barrier without a sonic boom.”
According to data from the National UFO Reporting Center, sightings of unidentified objects in the air reportedly rose in 2020 by about 1,000 nationwide, to more than 7,200 sightings
Perhaps the most startling video is the one recorded from the deck of the USS Russell, which appears to show several unidentified flying triangles “flashing” in the clouds off the coast of San Diego. The brief video was shot through a night-vision camera in July of 2019, Corbell says.
“I can confirm that the referenced photos and videos were taken by Navy personnel,” Pentagon spokesperson Susan Gough said in a statement to the Black Vault, a site with a long history of obtaining UFO-related documents through freedom of information laws.
“They confirmed they are all genuine, but won’t give their designation,” site operator John Greenewald said.
“The UAP (Task Force) has included these incidents in their ongoing examinations,” Gough said.
“As we have said before, to maintain operations security and to avoid disclosing information that may be useful to potential adversaries, DOD does not discuss publicly the details of either the observations or the examinations of reported incursions into our training ranges or designated airspace, including those incursions initially designated as UAP.”
“These are authentic photos and video from actual military encounters with UFOs — generated to educate high-level intelligence officers within our military on the nature and presentation of the UAP/UFO phenomenon,“ he wrote on his website.
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The U.S. military constantly monitors the airspace over and around the country for threats ranging from wayward Cessnas to truly unidentified craft, primarily using a network of radars, many of which are shared with the FAA, as well as alert fighter aircraft. This ecosystem is increasingly eyed for enhancements as the nature of the threat to the homeland morphs, especially in terms of the danger posed by cruise missile and drone attacks. At the same time, Congress is literally holding public hearings about unidentified aerial phenomena, or UAP, more classically referred to as UFOs. The topic exploded in the media thanks mainly to a media blitz by retired defense intelligence officials. In fact, Congress is now considering providing something akin to blanket immunity to public officials, military personnel, and even contractors, with any info on the UAP topic.
With this in mind, The War Zone thought the Center For Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) gathering yesterday of missile defense managers from top defense contractors that were brought together to discuss homeland cruise missile defense was a great opportunity to get perspective on the highly contentious UAP issue through their unique lens. We had a question about how existing and future airspace-monitoring and air defense systems aimed at countering cruise missiles could be harnessed to address the challenges presented by UAPs and the moderator, Global Business Editor at Defenseone.com, Marcus Weisgerber, was kind enough to present it to the panel.
Before we get to their responses, we need to provide a bit more background.
Executives from most of the top U.S. prime defense contractors sat on the CSIS panel. CSIS
There have been a concerning number of reportedly unauthorized and/or unidentified aircraft or objects over military facilities, near military aircraft and warships, and in designated test and training airspace in recent years. In particular, it is no secret that unidentified objects with small radar cross sections have been detected in military training ranges along both coasts with alarming regularity. The War Zone detailed a rash of encounters by Navy fighter pilots with unidentified craft off the U.S. East Coast over the last decade. There also was a bizarre string of events off Southern California in 2019. While it may be possible that these recent sightings include encounters with objects with extreme or unexplainable abilities, we have yet to see evidence of this. That doesn't mean evidence doesn't exist, though. What we do know for a fact is there have been many sightings that are explainable, but still extremely troubling.
An existing network of sensors monitors these same areas for potential nefarious actions, but upgrading this architecture to be able to better detect low-flying and small radar cross-section cruise missiles and drones is becoming a massive priority. This spurred the upgrade of F-15C/D and F-16C/D jets tasked with homeland defense with active electronically scanned array (AESA) radars, for instance, which can detect small, low-flying targets. The addition of infrared search-and-track (IRST) systems will help these fighters further to detect, identify, and engage these hard-to-spot targets. But these are just some first steps and a much more extensive sensor upgrade will be needed to better surveil the approaches to the continental U.S. and monitor for these threats. These same capabilities could be brought to bear for detecting and classifying UAPs. This includes having networking and sensor fusion capabilities so that even more complex targets – like those employing electronic warfare tactics – can still be detected, understood, and dealt with if need be.
Nick Bucci, vice president of defense systems and technologies at General Atomics, expounded on this idea.
“Maybe something that is designed to spoof one particular sensor can’t spoof another thing,” Bucci said. "So if I can ensure detection from, say, an [eleoctroptical/infrared] sensor or a [radio frequency] sensor, now I can start pulling that picture together better and getting better characteristics because I've looked at it different ways."
“Using passive sensors is another great way to get different information. Why don't we talk about acoustic sensors?" he continued. "There are a lot of really good acoustic sensors out there, which we happen to make – one that has been used for cruise missile defense and counter-UAS. Those are important sensors to now bring into this architecture. So that you can get that broader picture of the characteristics of a particular threat or object so you can tell whether it's a threat, to be sure you're going to do the right thing.”
Creating a multi-spectrum architecture where a sufficient number of sensors of various types are continuously monitoring the airspace is a costly proposition, said Doug Booth, director of radar and integrated air and missile defense at Lockheed Martin. Still, using ground radar installations in conjunction with airborne radars will help to paint a better picture of objects approaching, entering, or transiting the U.S. National Airspace, he said.
“I think there are multiple things that can be done there to help us solve the problem,” Booth said.
Jonathan Casey, director of small-to-medium ground-based air defense mission capability at Raytheon Missiles & Defense, said identifying objects as threats will always be difficult and that increased levels of scrutiny should be applied depending on whether the nation is at war or perceives an imminent national security threat – a point we discussed previously in great detail as it pertains to UAP. In times of war, the military could put less effort into parsing what an object is by assuming every unidentified object detected is a potential threat and treating it as such, he said.
“When there's a very, very high level of alert, do you reduce the level of confirmation you need in terms of combat ID?” Casey said. “I think that's a difficult decision. … Other than getting eyes on the target. It's never gonna be 100 percent. I mean, that's the 100 percent way to do it.”
Artificial intelligence and algorithmic analysis could sift through large quantities of airspace monitoring data to highlight abnormalities for human technicians to consider, Casey said. Social media companies take the same approach when trying to identify bot accounts among the millions of legitimate users and the level of scrutiny could be dialed up or down depending on the current threat alert state, he said.
David McFarland, senior director of missile defense programs at BAE Systems and a retired Navy captain, said the military services already employ different standards for combat identification in the missile defense arena, depending on threat levels. But those standards outlining flight characteristics and electronic emissions of various known enemy missiles can be circumvented, he said. Adversaries can use the crowded U.S. airspace to mask nefarious activity or even attacks, he said.
And crowded it is. We have cataloged and geolocated thousands of official FAA safety reports involving drones from pilots, many of which are unidentified, from across the country in recent years. You can check that out here and read more about our findings here and here.
"When I think about defense of the National Capital Region [NCR], boy, I can make a Tomahawk [cruise missile] kind of fly like a commercial airliner," McFarland said. "I could probably get into squawk mode and code that looks like a commercial airliner. Oh, by the way, there's this nice mountain range ... right outside of D.C. that can mask my approach and come in that way. Squawk and emote and code and looking all great. I can get away with it one time at least right? But that one time matters."
The NCR is the most highly surveilled and defended airspace in the United States. Nothing else exists like in the country in terms of a standing advanced integrated air defense system that includes many types of sensors and surface-to-air missiles. Still, concerns exist regarding its vulnerability to emerging capabilities and asymmetric attacks.
A U.S. Navy Tomahawk cruise missile flies by an isolated industrial complex during a flight test. U.S. DoD
His solution was to thwart missile defense threats before they are within striking range of the U.S. homeland. McFarland used the example of Cold War-era anti-submarine warfare (ASW), in which the Navy would use satellite imagery to count Soviet Oscar class submarines in their homeports. When one was “missing,” the Navy would then dispatch ASW aircraft to go find it, he said.
“Before it becomes an air defense problem, make it an ASW problem,” McFarland said. “We’ve got to start thinking big. We’ve got to start thinking about the battlespace differently. It's now the homeland, which means everything else, you know, we have to be out there with our forward-deployed forces with the mindset that we are defending the homeland.”
The now infamous videos seen below, taken using ATFLIR targeting pods on U.S. Navy F/A-18s, show examples of unidentified — at least publicly — objects Navy aircraft have encountered in the past. Exactly what these videos show or don't show remains a hotly contested topic.
But the Navy shoulders no official burden to police the U.S. National Airspace. That responsibility lies with the Air Force, which talks a lot about cruise missile defense, but says next to nothing about UAPs. The two issues are almost inextricably linked because an object flying toward or into U.S. airspace must be considered a threat until it can be positively identified as benign.
"We have to flow information openly," McFarland said. "It all comes back down to data."
The U.S. has sufficiently advanced intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance capabilities to identify most aircraft and other objects that enter its airspace, but there are not enough sensors deployed and they must be upgraded on par with threats that could spoof or evade them, said Michael Noble, senior director of advanced missions at Anduril Industries.
“We have fantastic radar,” he said. ”We have fantastic EO [electro-optical], awesome [signals intelligence], etc. It will continue to improve and we need more sensors, absolutely. But I think a key thing to realize here is this is not something we solve. The enemy has a vote here, so the way we do combat ID is going to vary from one target to another and they're going to adjust. … This architecture is going to have to evolve.”
HBTSS satellites are designed to provide continuous tracking and targeting of enemy missiles launched from land, sea, or air, according to Northrop Grumman, the company developing the system. They are one part of the Overhead Persistent Infrared (OPIR) multi-layered constellation of satellites, “which can sense heat signatures to detect and track missiles from their earliest stages of launch through interception,” one company press release says.
HBTTS satellites will provide continuous tracking and handoff to enable targeting of enemy missiles launched from land, sea or air. Northrop Grumman
Bucci agreed with Noble's prescribed approach, but said the optimal multi-layered, multi-spectrum airspace defense architecture is far enough in the future that an intermediate plan to handle detection and missile-defense warnings is needed.
"Persistence is what we need,” Bucci said. “You don't have persistence until you get that fully-populated constellation of satellites that gives you 24/7/365 heads-up data. In the meantime, you have search capabilities. You put out medium altitude, high altitude, long-endurance UAVs with the right sensor suites on them to be able to search to where indications and warnings have given you some level of information that I now have a rogue submarine off the East Coast.”
While most people think “flying saucer” and “aliens” when they hear UFO, discussions of unknown airspace intrusions are now mainstream enough to be seriously considered in the halls of power in Washington. The government’s reframing of the issue as unidentified aerial phenomenon is one indication that the debate is moving from the realm of science fiction and conspiracy theory to real-world national security. And there are a multitude of good reasons for this that have nothing to do with hunting for the paranormal or visitors from space invaders. The biggest being that the next big weapons capability breakthrough may very well look and act unlike what came before it — alien in nature, if you will. An adversary could and likely would leverage silly cultural stigmas against reporting unidentified flying objects to their advantage, even making the mundane appear anything but.
Regardless, that a panel of high-ranking defense industry executives fielded a question about UAP with straight faces underlines both the reality that the issue is a serious one and that missile-defense technology is a potential solution to detecting, tracking, and identifying these phenomena.
Ultimately, as they said, solving the UAP issue will require a greater number of more-advanced sensors, signaling a secondary market for the technologies their companies already sell to or could develop for the government to defend the U.S. homeland against enemy missiles. They likely understand that if Congress believes UAP are a threat to national security, dollars will flow toward that problem set. And considering that the Pentagon is already standing up a much more deeply mandated and resourced office dedicated to this issue, and those who hold the purse strings are a driving force behind its establishment, they would be right.
Former Air Force chief claims he once saw UFO firing at nuke missiles launched from secret base
Former Air Force chief claims he once saw UFO firing at nuke missiles launched from secret base
By Patrick Knox
“A former air force chief claimed today how he saw a UFO firing four beams of light at a nuclear missile undergoing testing.
A reconstruction of a UFO sending a beam of light at the warhead in the edge of space.
A former air force chief claimed today how he saw a UFO firing four beams of light at a nuclear missile undergoing testing.
Ex-US Air Force First lieutenant Robert Jacobs alleged a craft, resembling a flying saucer, circled the dummy warhead during a test flight in California, during 1964.
But despite his claims of what he saw, the former serviceman was ordered never to breathe a word of what he saw, a bombshell press conference heard.
Along with other former American air force chiefs Dr. Jacobs was giving evidence about how aliens tampered with weapons systems during tests, at nuclear bases and even shut the missiles down.
Giving his testimony at the National Press Club in Washington DC, he said: “I was part of a US Airforce cover-up. It was shaped like a flying saucer and was firing a beam of light at our warhead.”
On September 14, 1964, he was in charge of a 100-man unit, Jacobs had been despatched to the Big Sur in California to photograph, with high-speed instrumentation, at Atlas-D missile launch from Vandenberg.
This is because all three stages of the rocket’s powered flight were to be observed, including the separation of a dummy warhead on the edge of space.
Ex-first lieutenant in USAF Robert Jacobs says he saw a UFO.
But the next day Dr. Jacobs, now a professor at Bradley University, said he was called into the office of Major Florenze J Mansmann, where three people in grey suits were standing — whom he later claimed were CIA.
He said: “Major Mansmann said lieutenant, sit down and watch this. He turned the projector on and the most amazing thing happened.”
Dr. Jacobs continued: “We could see the bottom three stages of that rocket filling the frame from 160 miles away.”
“It was amazing, the clarity was beautiful and we watched it go through all three stages of powered flight.”
“The nose cone opened up and radar chaff, aluminum foil, spread out.
“We were testing to see if we could launch a nuclear warhead into orbit, slightly above the nuclear chaff, so the Russians would aim their anti-missile missiles at the chaff, and our little warhead would fly over and obliterate Moscow.
“That was the game we were playing. Horrifying to think about it in retrospect.”
The camera that allegedly filmed the UFO at the edge of orbit.
But suddenly, from in the frame, he claimed they saw an object following the test missile, which was traveling at 8,000mph.
The UFO was said to have homed in and fired four beams at the warhead.
Dr. Jacobs said: “Then it flew out of the frame the same way it had come in. At that point, the warhead tumbled out of space.”
“The light came on and Major Mansmann and the two guys in grey suits looked at me, and the major said ‘were you guys screwing around up there (at camera site) I said ‘no sir’.
“And he said ‘what was that?’ and I said it looks to me like we have a UFO.”
But the baffled, young lieutenant was ordered to belt up, or else.
Dr. Jacobs said: “He escorted me to his door and said I don’t need to remind you of the seriousness of the security breach. I said no sir.”
Ex-First lieutenant in USAF Robert Jacobs, pictured middle bottom row, with his crew.
“But as I left, he leaned over to speak in my ear, as if to say something the guys in the suits couldn’t hear.”
“He said ‘lieutenant if you were ever tortured in the future, somebody has you up against the wall and they’re frying your privates with fire, you can tell them this, it was laser tracking.”
“But we never had laser tracking in 1964.”
He added: “What we are here today to tell you, is this is a real event that is the most important event in the history of mankind. We are not alone.”
Four former USAF captains will speak about worrying incidents going back several decades and show declassified government documents.
They are calling for the US Congress to investigate and hold public hearings into reports that UFOs have disabled nuclear weapons.
Former Air Force officer, Robert Salas, was the on-duty commander of an underground launch control facility assigned to Malmstrom Air Force Base, Montana, US on March 24, 1967.
Major Florenze J. Mansmann ordered him never to speak of what he had seen ever again.
He claims all ten of his intercontinental ballistic missiles became inoperable.
Salas added that eight days earlier, on March 16, 1967, a similar incident occurred at another missile launch control facility.
Speaking to Sun Online, he said was hopeful following the press conference the US Air Force would finally break its silence about UFOs.
He said: “We hope to put enough pressure on people in government to call for open hearings.
“If we have open congressional hearings we will know a lot more about the subject because there is a lot of documentation and credible witnesses out there who are reluctant to testify.
“The Pentagon is hoping they can just sit back and write their little reports to congressional committees and then it just gets lost in the background.
“That’s another reason I am doing this is to keep the pressure and keep it out in the media and again and hopefully we can make some inroads.
“The USAF has been silent. The navy has come out and said they have now procedures for the pilots to report these sights.”
The UFO topic is becoming more serious and scientific, which is why every piece of news that comes out related to Unidentified Flying Objects quickly goes viral. Now a mysterious object has emerged from the Indian Ocean, just 700 kilometers from Madagascar.
Gone are the years where the UFO topic belonged solely to conspiracy theorists and alternative researchers. Now science and governments openly study them.
That is why he has powerfully called a strange object that emerged at full speed from the depths of the Indian Ocean .
UFO emerges from the sea
The island of Reunion , located in the Mascarene archipelago in the Indian Ocean, 700 kilometers east of Madagascar.
On the night of October 11, Sandrine Fontaine captured a video of a large unknown flying object hovering over the ocean .
This enigmatic dark mass rose very slowly above the water. Fontaine captured the entire event thanks to the red filter that his telescope had. This allowed him to see in detail the strange shape of what appeared to be a ship.
Despite this, he was only able to film the UFO for a few seconds, as it quickly disappeared .
According to experts who have examined the video, the object is very similar to the UFOs that were photographed from a US submarine in 1971 .
At the moment it leaves the water, the object’s profile is shown as a triangular shape . A very characteristic form that has been filmed on other occasions.
An example of strange craft with these shapes is the TR-3B anti-gravity aircraft . However, it is obvious that what is shown in the video emerges from the sea .
In fact, many experts consider that it is not a UFO, but a USO , so it could belong to an underwater base .
Human or alien?
Many people on the internet have raised the possibility that this is reverse-engineered human technology . Using alien technology captured in the past.
They have even mentioned the possibility that it is part of a space fleet capable of traveling to other planets in the Solar System.
There is also the possibility that we are facing a real alien spacecraft. Theorists have even speculated for years that an underwater extraterrestrial base could exist near the island , where an alien race could live .
So far, no government has ruled on the matter, so no theory can be affirmed or rejected. If you want to know more about it, check out the Snakedos video below:
Bob Lazar is the most important entity in exposing the alleged secret activities related to extraterrestrials and UFOs happening at Area-51. He is widely recognized as the Area-51 whistle-blower who revealed aliens and the government worked together on secret bases in 1989. Thirty years ago, he claimed to have worked as an engineer near Area-51 at a hangar called S-4. There, as he claims, UFOs with tiny alien seats were made out of a material called Element 115.
The story of Element 115 gets weirder when Bob claimed that the FBI raided his business. His followers found this to be very suspicious, and have theorized that the FBI was attempting to recover samples of Element 115 that Lazar took from Area-51.
According to Motherboard, the FBI did actually raid Bob’s United Nuclear Scientific Equipment and Supplies, which sells radioactive ore and isotopes, X-Ray components, electrical items, high-powered magnets, lab equipment, jet engines, and UFO T-shirts.
This claim was revealed in Jeremy Corbell’s documentary “Bob Lazar: Area 51 and Flying Saucers.” Lazar and the documentary frame the raid as an attempt by the U.S. government to seize alien fuel that Lazar allegedly stole from Area-51. But the documents obtained by Motherboard had nothing to do with Element 115.
Corbell told Express.co.uk: “Lazar did have a stabilized version of Element 115 in his possession at one time. He did tests on it – and filmed the element bending light due to its unique gravitational characteristics. A handful of witnesses observed these tests – including investigative reporter, George Knapp. There is footage of one of these tests in my film. Lazar was able to acquire some of the element when it was being machined at Area 51.”
Someone can still question the credibility of Bob Lazar, but there are many authentic people to confirm his credibility. George Knapp stated that he had spoken with former employees who worked with Bob and verified that he was a physicist, however, these claims were made informally and off the record. Knapp said that those employees were friends of Lazar’s and only specifically named Joe Vaninetti as being one who confirmed it. Vaninetti had a significant interest in UFOs and was involved in UFO research with Bob, both before and after Bob claimed to have worked at S-4. (Click here to read more about Lazar’s credibility)
Element 115: An Alien Fuel?
According to Bob, this alien artifact is a highly radioactive element that allows alien spacecraft to traverse the cosmos, impervious to gravity’s effects. Lazar has been claiming for years that he worked on the material at Area-51 and that it can be used to power spacecraft.
“It’s a superheavy element,” Lazar once told Larry King. “It’s a unique element. When it’s exposed to radiation, it produces its own gravitational field—its own antigravitational field, and it’s what’s used to lift and propel the craft.” The UFO fuel is stable and did not decay, according to Lazar. He said that the fuel creates gravity waves to propel the UFO.
In his initial TV interviews (check the video below) with George Knapp back in 1989, Bob first discussed Element 115 and how it was used in the propulsion system of the alien craft hidden at the S-4 facility. He never denied or confirmed if aliens had given them Element 115 but he told that they had 500 pounds (227 kg) for reverse engineering purposes.
In 2014, Bob did another interview with Knapp where he discussed Element 115 and how it is created both synthetically and naturally through a supernova, which is the cataclysmic explosion of a star.
Bob Lazar further explained in his interviews that bombarding Element 115 with protons leads to it creating Element 116 (Livermorium), which immediately decays and produces antimatter. The antimatter collides with normal particles creating a massive energy burst, which can be used for propulsion. It is quite likely Element 115 could also be the famed exotic matter that is needed to create traversable wormholes that physicists such as Drs. Kip Thorne and Carl Sagan have speculated, and was the subject of a recently leaked Defense Intelligence Reference Document titled “Traversable Wormholes, Stargates, and Negative Energy.”
In September 2020, Corbell shared a photo of Lazar holding Aerogel that was used to package Element 115 for transport. He said that he could not include this part in his Netflix documentary but promised to publish the clip on his YouTube channel, discussing Element 115 and how he observed it functioning (Editor’s note: I searched throughout Corbell’s channel but could not find a clip explaining Element 115).
This image features Bob Lazar and the Aerogel that was used to package the ELEMENT 115 for transport. There has been a lot of confusion about this – and about the function of ELEMENT 115 in alien spacecraft. And this is a core aspect of what Bob Lazar has told you. Image credit: Jeremy Corbell
“It’s reported that a distortion occurs – a gravitational distortion. This is highlighted by how these vehicles appear to negate the effects of inertia. You’ve heard it thousands of times from credible witnesses regarding their UFO encounters… ‘It shot off at an IMPOSSIBLE speed.’ Cmdr. Fravor & Cmdr. Select Underwood used those exact words to me when describing their encounters with the TIC TAC UFO. The craft displayed instantaneous acceleration – and was immediately gone from both sight and radar. Even the Princeton with it’s SPY-1 radar system confirmed this in real-time.
So what’s up with these transmedium machines – these UFOs that fly with impunity in our airspace? Maybe ELEMENT 115 can give us a glimpse into the UFO presence on Planet Earth,” Corbell wrote.
75 years ago, Roswell 'flying saucer' report sparked UFO obsession
75 years ago, Roswell 'flying saucer' report sparked UFO obsession
Dave Kindy, The Washington Post
Fort Worth Army Air Field 8th July 1947: Jesse Marcel, head intelligence officer, who initially investigated and recovered some of the debris from the Roswell UFO site poses with debris. In mid-1947, a United States Air Force balloon crashed at a ranch near Roswell, New Mexico. Following wide initial interest in the crashed 'flying disc', the US military stated that it was merely a conventional weather balloon. (Photo by: Universal History Archive/ Universal Images Group via Getty Images)
Universal History Archive/Universal Images Group via Getty
The world was worrying about war when rancher W.W. Brazel walked into the sheriff's office in Corona, N.M., on a hot, dusty day 75 years ago to report a "flying disk" he might have found on his property, about 100 miles northwest of Roswell Army Air Field.
The next day - July 8, 1947 - the public information officer at the base issued a news release stating the U.S. Army Air Forces had recovered a "flying saucer" at the ranch. While military brass quickly retracted the statement, it was too late: The legend of Roswell as the "UFO Capital of the World" was already soaring - much like the countless bright objects many Americans claimed to have seen in the sky that summer.
The event that we know today as the "Roswell Incident" gave birth to the modern movement of UFO sightings, along with the genre of alien science fiction.
"For centuries, people have seen things they can't explain," said Roger Launius, a historian and the retired curator of the Smithsonian's National Air and Space Museum. "In earlier generations, they referred to them as angels, demons, deities or whatever. That changes with the scientific revolution, where people began to wonder if the points of light they see are alien in nature."
The fertile ground for Roswell was sown under the darkening mushroom cloud of the nuclear age. World War II had ended less than two years earlier, and the United States and Soviet Union seemed to be on the precipice of another global conflict. The term "Cold War" was coined by George Orwell in a 1945 essay and entered the modern consciousness when Bernard Baruch, an adviser to President Harry S. Truman, uttered it in a speech in the spring of 1947.
Amid this heightened apprehension came the first news of "flying saucers" - and the term's first mention in print, according to the Oxford English Dictionary - on June 24. Media across the country reported that a civilian pilot named Ken Arnold said he'd spotted bright objects streaking across the sky at supersonic speeds near Mount Rainier in Washington.
Some officials suggested the fast-moving lights might have been rockets or jets being tested by the military. Nonetheless, public hysteria erupted over the next few weeks, with more than 800 similar sightings being reported across the country - many of them deemed "copycat" events by law enforcement and military officials.
"When Ken Arnold sees this stuff, it's told in an overblown tabloid way," Launius said. "It gets hyped-up in the press and builds from there. If the present doesn't tell you that Americans love conspiracies, I don't know what does. It wasn't any different in 1947."
While all this was happening, an unsuspecting Brazel was tending the sheep and cattle on his New Mexico ranch. With no radio or newspaper, he was isolated from the outside world. The rancher gave little thought to the unusual debris he found scattered around his pastures.
On July 5, Brazel headed into Corona on a Saturday night and learned what everyone else had been talking about. He began to wonder whether there was a connection. On Monday, he gathered up the strange material and traveled back into town to inform local officials of his discovery. The sheriff visited Brazel's ranch, then contacted the military.
The debris was transported to Fort Worth Army Air Field in Texas, where military experts proclaimed it was from a crashed weather balloon. However, before that pronouncement was relayed back to Roswell, the New Mexico base sent out the news release about finding a "flying saucer." Lt. Walter Haut, Roswell's public information officer, later claimed that base commander Col. William H. Blanchard had ordered him to use that description.
For a few days, the world's attention was focused on Roswell, N.M. But most people seemed satisfied with the military's explanation, and the story quickly faded.
It would not blow up again until 1978, when the National Enquirer ran an article about the incident. All of a sudden, new versions of the event emerged - some from the original participants - with reports of an actual spacecraft, alien bodies and a government coverup adding new layers to the legend.
"The story seems to get better with each retelling," Launius said. "Initially, there was no discussion whatsoever of alien bodies. That somehow gets wrapped in it as part of the original incident, even though there is nothing about it in the sources of the time."
The story evolved with a seemingly endless array of articles, books, movies and documentaries about what "really happened" in the New Mexico desert. In 1993, television audiences were introduced to the long-running series "The X-Files," whose fictional stories of FBI agents Fox Mulder and Dana Sculley tracking down alien abductions and an international conspiracy only added fuel to the fire.
Many involved with the incident altered their descriptions of events over time, including the government. In 1947, the CIA and military were concerned that these "flying saucers" were actually new technology being used by the Soviets. When the Army Air Forces retracted its first statement, it was less than forthcoming about the debris' origins - likely because it was hiding a secret.
"The weather balloon was a cover story," Launius said. "The best evidence suggests that this was a Project Mogul listening device that they recovered pieces of."
Project Mogul was a military program designed to intercept Russian radio messages via high-altitude balloons, which would eventually deflate and fall to the Earth. Several crash sites have been identified around the country. In 1994, a U.S. Air Force report identified the top-secret project as the likely source of the debris found in New Mexico.
Launius said the UFO sightings of the summer of 1947 were the result of a world consumed by fear of an apocalypse.
"Just in the United States between 1947 and 1960, there were a total of 6,523 UFO reports," he said. "There seems to be a direct tie between public perception of the reality of space travel and these UFO sightings. I am convinced that the rapid rise in the number of UFOs reported in the early Cold War era was the result of heightened tensions as everyone watched the skies for warning of a nuclear attack."
But even if the Roswell Incident could be explained by a military program, subsequent events in the skies remain a mystery. On July 19, 1952, almost exactly five years after Brazel reported the strange debris on his ranch, a series of UFO sightings occurred over Washington, D.C. Airline pilots reported seeing flashes of light streaking across the sky, and radar operators were perplexed by fast-moving blips on their screens. The Air Force scrambled jets to intercept the objects, which disappeared and never returned. The event 70 years ago has never been explained.
As the poster in Mulder's office in "The X-Files" reads, "I want to believe."
Millionaire buys 25-foot-tall Cold War-era radar system to 'hunt UFOs': Founder of autonomous car company worth up to $250 million asks the public what he should do with the technology once it's brought back to life
Millionaire buys 25-foot-tall Cold War-era radar system to 'hunt UFOs': Founder of autonomous car company worth up to $250 million asks the public what he should do with the technology once it's brought back to life
William Sachiti purchased a former Royal Air Force base in Norwich, England
He's using the 250,000 square-feet stretch to test his autonomous delivery cars
On the land is a decommissioned radar system used to detect incoming nukes
Sachiti posted on Reddit asking the public for ideas on what to use it for
He said if the public wants to use it to hunt UFOs, then it will hunt UFOs
While most millionaires spend their fortune on pricey cars and luxurious boats, William Sachiti used his fortune to purchase a Cold War era radar station in Norwich, England.
Sachiti, who is a British entrepreneur, purchased a network of private roads along a 250,000 square feet to test his 'spaceship, alien-looking' autonomous vehicles, but the radar system was an added bonus.
'UFOs obviously,' he jokingly told DailyMail.com in response to being asked what he plans on doing with the gigantic 25-foot-tall machine that once alerted the British army to oncoming nuclear missiles.
'I will find a way to bring this to life and let the people choose the best way to use it,' he said.
'If people want to hunt UFOS, I guess it is hunting UFOs.'
The massive system is located on the Royal Air Force Neatishead, an air defense station in England.
In 2010, it was advertised for sale with an asking price of $4,780,000 – Sachiti declined to say how much he paid for the location.
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While most millionaires spend their fortune on pricey cars and luxurious boats, William Sachiti used his fortune to purchase a Cold War era radar station in Norwich, England
During a Zoom interview, Sachiti gave DailyMail.com a close up look at the coveted radar system that is about 65 feet wide and sits on a large pedestal.
'This thing could do for others what Star Trek did for me as a kid,' he said, noting that it will take about two years until the radar system is up and running.
He reached out on Reddit for help on bringing it back to life, which he says is part of his belief in the power of crowdsourcing.
Sachiti is a roboticist, artificial intelligence expert and serial entrepreneur who uses his free time to solve the problems of the world, he told DailyMail.com.
William Sachiti, who is a British entrepreneur, purchased a network of private roads along a 250,000 square feet to test his autonomous vehicles
His prized possession, however, is his company Kar-go, which uses self-driving cars to deliver packages.
'Think of it as a post office sorter on wheels. It drives to an address, opens its trunk and out comes a package,' Sachiti said, sharing a look at the small, green robotic machine with DailyMail.com.
'It only delivers small parcels because they make up 80 percent of the parcels shipped.'
The autonomous, four-wheeled vehicle sits low to the ground and features an aerodynamic look that is colored green and black, along with a license plate on the front and back.
Sachiti told DailyMail.com that it is not just the vehicle he is focused on, it is the supercomputer 'brain' inside of it.
His prized possession, however, is his company Kar-go, which uses self-driving cars to deliver packages. The autonomous, four-wheeled vehicle sits low to the ground and features an aerodynamic look that is green and black, along with a license plate in the front and back
The system is being used by the Royal Air Force and by a company that monitors 25 percent of UK roads.
'They are using our car vision to detect potholes and depth,' he said.
Elon Musk's Tesla announced on Monday that its vehicles are now scanning for potholes – a feature that came much later than Sachiti's.
He also gave DailyMail.com a tour of his 'space bus' that is a traveling office and auto shop for engineers to work on the autonomous vehicles.
Sachiti also gave DailyMail.com a tour of his 'space bus' that is a traveling office and auto shop for engineers to work on the autonomous vehicles
It once ran on diesel, but Sachiti redesigned it to only use the power of the sun.
The highlight of the bus is a chair with a steering wheel at the back, which looks similar to one seen in arcades.
The chair allows engineers to take over control of the autonomous vehicles and drive them into the bus to work on them.
While his team is testing the vehicles along the roads, Sachiti plans on bringing new life to the radar system, which was part of an early warning system meant to alert the British military if nuclear missiles were coming their way.
Known as the AMES Type 84 radar unit, this one was in operation from 1962 through 1994 and released microwaves to detect nukes.
Sachiti does not plan on using it for its original purpose, but instead hopes the public can find a task more suitable for the modern world.
'My expensive hobby will be finding UFOs,' said Sachiti. 'If that is what the world wants, who am I to judge.'
During the summer of 1954, the United States Air Force was on high alert. A pair of mysterious objects had been located in orbit between 400 and 600 miles from Earth, and now officials were in a state of confusion as to what they might represent. Could they be non-terrestrial objects of natural origin, or could they be something else entirely?
A more concerning possibility also lurked in the minds of officials at the time: what if the objects were manmade, and possibly of Soviet origin?
Dr. Lincoln La Paz, then the head of the Extra-Terrestrial Bodies Institute at the University of New Mexico, had been in constant communication with the Air Force about their unusual new problem. For weeks, he shot back and forth between the Palomar Observatory in California and the missile test center at White Sands, New Mexico, until it was finally determined by the astronomer that the objects were indeed natural: they were only meteors.
The story received tremendous attention after it first appeared in Aviation Week, and just days later, a source close to the Army Office of Ordnance Research assured the New York Times that no satellites deemed to be of artificial origin had been detected yet, adding about La Paz’s meteors that “there was absolutely no connection between the reported satellites and flying saucer reports.”
The search for objects in Earth’s orbit had been virgin territory in 1954, and the events in the fall of that year were only a foreshadowing of the kind of public fear yet to come. Once the Soviets actually did launch Sputnik 1 from the Baikonur Cosmodrome in the early days of October 1957, concerns about a technological gap among Western nations escalated into a full-blown crisis.
The world would never be the same. In the aftermath of the “Sputnik crisis,” the United States accelerated its space-bound efforts, eventually placing its own satellites into orbit, followed by successful manned space missions and, eventually, humans landing on the Moon in July 1969. Today, on any clear night one can look at the night sky and see tiny points of light moving silently along in their positions in orbit, representing objects that range from satellites and the International Space Station, to tiny reflective bits of debris from past space missions that have accumulated in Earth’s orbit steadily over time.
In addition to the satellites we have placed into orbit around our own planet, humans have also sent several spacecraft to further locales, some of which we have positioned around nearby planets like Mars. It seems logical to assume that if there were any intelligent extraterrestrials out there, they might do the same.
This brings to mind an interesting question for modern astronomers: what if aliens have surveilled our planet, either in the past, or even in the present day? If so, how might we detect evidence of their technologies?
(Credit: NASA)
With the amount of debris that clutters the space around our planet today, it would prove difficult to locate any prospective alien probes that may be watching us. Based on current European Space Agency data, there are 5,800 functioning satellites in orbit, with nearly 31,590 debris objects that have been logged and continuously tracked by Space Surveillance Networks.
However, not all objects in orbit around our planet are being tracked. According to current statistical models, smaller space objects between 1 mm and 10 cm could number greater than 131 million.
In short, the orbital area around our planet has become a very cluttered place since the dawn of the Space Age, making it increasingly difficult to search for any possible outliers that might represent evidence of non-terrestrial technological artifacts that might be observing our planet.
That’s why one group of researchers, led by Beatriz Villarroel of the Nordic Institute of Theoretical Physics and Stockholm University, has undertaken a citizen science effort to search for evidence of such non-terrestrial artifacts in what some might consider an unusual place: data that has already been publicly available for decades.
Prior to the launch of manmade satellites like Sputnik 1 in the late 1950s, Earth’s skies were free of the clutter that hinders modern searches for prospective non-terrestrial objects. According to Villarroel and her team, one way to overcome this problem is by scanning earlier photographic plate projects such as the First Palomar Sky Survey (POSS-1), which is the focus of the Vanishing & Appearing Sources during a Century of Observations (VASCO) project.
“We expect the project to yield many interesting findings over time,” reads a statement on the website of the VASCO Network, “maybe even some anomalous objects and events — could aliens be responsible for any of those?”
“We show that even the small pieces of reflective debris in orbit around the Earth can be identified through searches for multiple transients in old photographic plate material exposed before the launch of the first human satellite in 1957,” the researchers state in the paper’s abstract. According to Villarroel and her coauthors, images depicting what they identify as “simultaneous transients” may hold the key to detecting evidence of non-terrestrial artifacts that may have been lurking in Earth’s orbit since the days prior to Sputnik.
Beatriz Villarroel of the Nordic Institute of Theoretical Physics and Stockholm University
(Image Credit: Karl Nordlund/Stockholm University)
“About 80% of the very fast bright flashes (glints) in our sky are the result of artificial objects with highly reflective, flat surfaces,” Villarroel recently told The Debrief. These objects, many of them relatively small according to Villarroel, may be found in geosynchronous orbit around the Earth.
“A fast glint like this will look like a star in an image,” Villarroel says, “and sometimes one can see several glints from the same object in an image (or from different ones). Space debris and satellites in geosynchronous orbits can leave multiple glints in an image.
“Multiple glints in sky images is, therefore, a typical signature of artificial objects,” Villarroel says. By looking at some of the earliest photographic plates collected by 20th-century astronomers, the VASCO team thinks they could easily discern the presence of any reflective objects in geosynchronous orbits (GEO) since they would appear as short lines in these photographs, the length of which can be used as an indicator of their speed and position in orbit (satellites at higher GEO altitudes produce fast, transient glints that result from the light they reflect from the Sun).
Of particular interest to Villarroel and her colleagues are the appearances of multiple glints, which may indicate a single object tumbling through space producing a series of flashes as its surfaces reflect sunlight, or possibly even the presence of several objects.
“We propose to look for multiple glints in image data before Sputnik I,” Villarroel told The Debrief. “If such signatures are found in a time when there were no high-altitude satellites, that could imply the presence of Non-Terrestrial Artifacts (NTAs) in orbits around the Earth.”
Although surveying photographic data from pre-satellite times offers obvious benefits to the search for non-terrestrial artifacts, there are challenges for modern researchers using this approach, since multiple glints in older sky survey imagery could be accounted for by a number of other things. These could include defects in the images that produce the appearance of star-like objects which, in fact, may simply be photographic artifacts.
“If one finds multiple glints in an image, we cannot know for sure that the observation is real as some defects might possibly look star-like,” Villarroel says. “And it is difficult to access the original photographic plates to examine the ‘stars’ under a microscope.”
One simple way that Villarroel and her colleagues have proposed to help narrow down any likely anomalies is to search or instances where they appear in a single line.
“The main proposal of the paper is, therefore, to look for an even clearer signature, which is to search for these multiple glints-events that on top of everything, also are aligned along a line,” Villarroel told The Debrief. Unlike plate defects, which could most often be expected to appear randomly across the image, Villarroel says that genuine glints of light detected by cameras, possibly produced by debris or satellites of unknown origin, would produce consistent glints of light along a line in an image.
Villarroel says there are several sources of imagery that astronomers can use for such surveys, many of which are freely available. However, an added benefit of conducting multiple surveys could be that the presence of any anomalies detected in one photographic plate collection, if thereafter found in a separate set of images, could help confirm the presence of a genuine anomaly.
“Many observatories have their photographic plate collections,” Villarroel says. “Finding similar examples of ‘multiple transients’ in other image data sets could help to confirm the effect. Also, we have predicted some shapes and glinting patterns in our recent preprint that one can use to search for the predicted objects in modern datasets.”
Along with her efforts with the Vasco Network, Villarroel is a research team member of The Galileo Project, a scientific effort led by astronomer Avi Loeb aimed at detecting extraterrestrial technological signatures produced by Extraterrestrial Technological Civilizations (ETCs).
“The Galileo project is excellently suited for these searches,” Villarroel told The Debrief.
With decades of imagery now in hand, modern advances in computer imaging and artificial intelligence could prove to be instrumental in helping astronomers make a breakthrough in the search for extraterrestrial intelligence. Considering some of the early observations by Lincoln La Paz and other astronomers at the dawn of the Space Age, it would indeed be ironic if it were ever proven that evidence of extraterrestrial technologies had been lurking much closer to home than most would have ever expected.
When asked about some of the intriguing observations that preceded the earliest launch of artificial satellites in 1957, Villarroel says cases from decades ago might indeed be worthy of renewed attention from modern astronomers, especially if the current efforts to analyze photographic plate collections ever turns up anything odd.
“These historical examples would be very interesting for us to look at through the VASCO glasses,” Villarroel says.
Micah Hanks is Editor-in-Chief and Co-Founder of The Debrief. Follow his work at micahhanks.com and on Twitter: @MicahHanks.
After the Rendlesham Forest UFO incident, Ilkley Moor became the most famous alien spot in the United Kingdom. A retired British police officer named Philip Spencer never thought that one fine morning he would encounter an alien entity and capture it in his camera.
The incident occurred on December 1, 1987. In the early morning, Spencer left his home in Ilkley, saying goodbye to his wife and children to meet his father-in-law who lived on the other side of Moor.
Ilkley Moor is an upland moorland & conservation area in Yorkshire, England with a notable bird population, walking trails & tranquil views. It has the carved boulders, dating back to the Bronze age. Besides, it is known for the legends of strange creatures that roam in the darkness and strange lights that were seen coming through the mist. The place is situated just 21 miles away from the RAF Menwith hill military base which accounts for several UFO sightings.
Alien photograph captured by British police officer Philip Spencer in 1987
It was dark when Spencer started his journey. He had a compass to navigate in dense fog and a camera, hoping to capture the beautiful sites of Moor on his way. When he was passing through the area called White wells, an 18th-century town, he was distracted by something unusual. He saw a small-sized creature with long arms, similar in shape to a “Sock Monkey.”
Surprisingly, the creature made a strange move with its right arm, like it was waving at Spencer, and that’s the moment he captured in his camera before the entity disappeared behind the slopes.
According to Spencer, the creature had big black eyes, pointed ears, and strangely long arms. He described its feet as a hoof split into two toes.
What happened next is really shocking. Spencer said that he immediately followed the creature but unfortunately lost it. Subsequently, he claimed to have seen a dome-shaped spacecraft that rose from the moor and disappeared into the sky.
Image credit: Ufocasebook
Spencer seemed to be confused as things were not adding up for him. He came to his father-in-law’s village and was shocked to see the time in the church clock. It was already 10 a.m., and he could not understand where he had missed 2 hours. He thought that he might have hallucinated everything. But his doubts were cleared after he processed the photographs he had taken. He got assured after seeing the creature in the photograph. It was blurred but still, it existed.
The negative was later examined by various UFO experts, and they did not find any sign of tamper. It means that Spencer took a real shot of the alien creature.
Wharfedale UFO expert Nigel Mortimer re-examined Spencer’s photo in 1998. He said: “I have been trying to do this analysis for years. We are also trying to get other people involved and will look at the evidence properly. It isn’t just this photo – there have been reports of other phenomena in that area for years. I was talking to some Americans last week and they told me that they regard this Ilkley case as second only to the Roswell case in the US as evidence of aliens.”
Newspaper clipping of Ilkley Moor incident
The strangeness did not end there. After the incident, Spencer started having strange dreams in which he saw a starry sky. Then he wondered what could have happened to him during the missing time. He was advised by the UFO investigators to go under hypnosis. He recalled the creature approached him before he took a photo. He said (under hypnosis):
“I’m walking along the moor. Oh! It’s quite windy. There’s a lot of clouds. Walking up towards the trees, I see this little something, can tell, but he’s green. It’s moving towards me. Oh! I can’t move, I m stuck! He’s still coming towards me. And I still can’t move… I’m stuck, and everything’s gone fuzzy. I’m… I’m floating along in the air… I want to get down! And these green things walking ahead of me, and I don’t like it.
I still can’t move. I’m going around the corner and this green thing in front of me. Oh, God, I want to get down. There’s a… there’s a big silver saucer thing, and there’s a door in it, and I don’t want to go in there! Everything’s gone black now…”
He remembered he had been examined by the creaturs inside the ship, and they showed him a movie on a disaster that would occur if people did not stop population growth and pollution. After that, he was returned back to the moor with no memory of his abduction.
Philip Spencer did not earn fame and money from his story, and he is one of few abductees who showed evidence to prove his encounter.
The space industry growth is booming and Morgan Stanley’s Space Team estimates that the roughly $350 billion global space industry could surge to over $1 trillion by 2040. Such advancement has given new opportunities for scientists to sneak deep into the dark valleys of space. This led to more people supporting the existence of intelligent species other than humans in the universe. There are many occasions when the NASA workers claimed to have seen unnatural phenomena, objects, and even beings in space. Dr. Norman Bergrun, who had worked for NASA, claimed that there were massive alien spacecraft proliferating in the rings of Saturn.
Dr. Bergun is the author of the books “Ringmakers of Saturn” and “Tomorrows Technology Today,” which document the existence of extraterrestrial vehicles of immense power. A scientist who pioneered the methodology of thermal ice prevention design, he is also credited with roll-stability laws for airplanes and missiles.
Dr. Bergrun was manager of test planning and analysis for the Polaris Underwater Launch Missile System and evaluated satellite system applications. Also a director of Information Systems, he founded his own company in 1971 and is cited in “Who’s Who in the World” and other reference works. He was an alumnus of Ames Research Laboratory, NACA (National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics), predecessor of Ames Research Center, NASA where he worked for 12 years as a research scientist.
Dr. Norman Bergrun. Image credit: Legacy.com
There has been a theory that NASA employees cannot talk too much. A few former NASA employees shared some details that they could not have given out because of the confidentiality agreement. Dr. Bergrun said that it is Saturn that can be the refuge of an alien civilization, and NASA just hide their evidence, using it for their own purposes.
Dr. Norman Bergrun played a key role in the Voyager missions, the probes that were sent out and tasked with photographing Saturn, its rings and moons. There is a photo shown below from that mission he was able to obtain from the agency of a large unidentified flying object hovering just outside Saturn’s rings. It is huge, approximately the size of Earth, and is published in his book, “Ringmakers of Saturn.”
A UFO The Size Of Planet Earth Seen Hovering Near Saturn. Credit: Dr. Norman Bergrun
Dr. Bergrun said: “What I found out is, these things inhabit Saturn, that’s where I first discovered them, and they’re proliferating. You can find them around Uranus and Jupiter. Wherever you see some rings, that’s where I see the aircraft, I call them a ring maker. I say that it is electromagnetic because I can identify streamline patterns with respect to it that I knew were what we called ‘potential lines’ and that says it was electrical.”
In that book, Dr. Bergrun analyzed photographs of Saturn’s rings taken by the Voyager 1 and Voyager 2 spacecraft in 1980 and 1981. He detailed his theory that the rings were formed by giant Electro-Magnetic Vehicles (EVMs), which are possibly being controlled by intelligent beings. He stated that the 7000-mile-long elliptical ships are currently orbiting Saturn within the rings and emitting visible exhaust. Later, analysis by Bergrun and others suggested the same or similar ships are in orbit around the Sun, Jupiter and Uranus.
Infrared photograph of one of the gigantic cylindrical objects taken by Hubble in the Saturn's rings
A strange bend was spotted in Saturn's two outermost rings as they passed behind the planet in this view from NASA's Cassini spacecraft. Cassini took the image on June 9, 2016, and NASA released it on July 25.
Some point to this break in Saturn's rings as signs of alien activity.
Credit: NASA
Dr. Bergun claimed that he had to go through a lot of trouble in publishing his book, according to retired U.S. Army Command Sergeant Major Bob Dean. Below is the transcription of the interview between Kerry Cassidy of Project Camelot and Dr. Bergun:
Kerry Cassidy: “Have you heard that NASA alters their footage, coming from the moon, etc?
Bergrun: “I know some of the things they do with it, yeah”
Kerry: “Okay, so even their footage is not always dependable right, although I guess it’s dependable to begin with, it’s just that they start altering it later?”
Dr. Bergun: “I have been told by a very reliable source, he asked me, what camera did I get that image from on the moon, I said ‘Hasselblad,’ and he said, ‘That’s right.’ He says, ‘I thought we darkened that enough that you wouldn’t find it.’”
Kerry: “So you were finding things they thought they covered up? Incredible.”
Dr. Bergun: “Yeah, and this guy says, ‘Well I suppose you want me to go out and tell everybody about that?’ I said ‘No, I don’t want to embarrass you, that doesn’t make any difference to me, whatever you want to do is fine with me, I’m just saying I found what you saw.’ “
Hediedon July 1, 2018, at Tracy Nursing and Rehabilitation Center at the age of 96. Unfortunately, Dr. Bergun was just another name on the list of NASA whistleblowers who is forgotten and ignored due to a lack of followers and media attention.
Colossal UFO Interacted With The Sun To Avoid A Big Solar Storm Heading To Our Planet
Colossal UFO Interacted With The Sun To Avoid A Big Solar Storm Heading To Our Planet
Strange things happen daily, but as weird as everything gets we never expected things to get as weird as this. A new discovery was made by NASA themselves, one that sounds a bit too fantastical, to say the least.
A huge U̳F̳O̳ has been spotted in between Earth and the Sun, just strolling by, enjoying the view. Not only that, according to their official statements this U̳F̳O̳ was not even paying attention to us in the slightest, it was just minding its business trying to avoid a huge solar storm that was heading our way.
Immediately after these pictures were made public SOHO made sure that none of it gets out, removing all of the pictures almost instantly and shutting down all 6 of the solar observatories across the globe.
In doing so they made sure that the world would never know the truth behind it all. It is a sad day indeed, but one that quickly reminded us all why we’re so against the superiors in our society. Check out the video below, it is actually interested in telling you the truth, not just coercing you into believing whatever they want you to believe like NASA does every Tuesday.
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